32 thoughts on “The $17,000 Fairlight CMI 30A Computer Musical Instrument”

1. $17,000 is a lot for any synthesizer, especially for one that's got a 30-year-old operating system that looks like something off of a Commodore 64.

2. 17000?!? Ha Ha! That's stupid!

3. I bet a lot of people are curious to experience the Fairlight, as it is a piece of history; but how many of them have $17,000 lying around? I wonder if they’ll ever come out with a more affordable (but less accurate) software emulation for PC or Mac.

   1. A software emulation would be nice because of the usability to edit waves but software on a PC can’t play a sample back like those old CMIs did. Remember it’s tuning a sample by playing it back in lower or higher speed. That’s different to resampling a waveform digitally, which degrades it.

4. I bet a lot of people are curious to experience the Fairlight, as it is a piece of musical history; but how many of them have $17,000 lying around? I wonder if they'll ever come out with a more affordable (but less accurate) PC or Mac Fairlight emulation.

5. I wonder if a digital nostalgia wave is about to hit us, like analogue did. It might of course be that the most modern technology is still just an ever-more complex version of essentially digital sound and, if we wish to celebrate its essential non-complexity, there are already movements like 8-bit and circuit-bending of toy keyboards and so on.
   With any production effort, there is the aspect of basic material and assembly costs but – equally significant – the way an increasing market subdivides the overheads. For example, Korg's Kaossilator retails for £129 or, say $200 but if they were only planning to sell 100 of them, the retail price – covering R&D and manual production, would be into the tens of thousands of pounds/dollars sold.
   Thing is, with the original Fairlight, it's unique selling potential was about far more than the nuance of the sound texture so, in this day and age, I think it'll have a hard time selling at such a premium for this aspect alone when all its other original unique selling points are long since superseded and by far, far cheaper equipment.

   1. So, analog is nothing more than nostalgia? What world do you live in? I don’t understand this at all. Everything you hear is analog. Even a digitized sound file is converted to analog, otherwise you would not hear it. Your ears after all are a marvel of evolution, more complicated than anything your money can or will ever be able to buy.

   2. It actually did. ;’]

6. I wonder if a digital nostalgia wave is about to hit us, like analogue did. It might of course be that the most modern technology is still just an ever-more complex version of essentially digital sound and, if we wish to celebrate its essential non-complexity, there are already movements like 8-bit and circuit-bending of toy keyboards and so on.
   With any production effort, there is the aspect of basic material and assembly costs but – equally significant – the way an increasing market subdivides the overheads. For example, Korg's Kaossilator retails for £129 or, say $200 but if they were only planning to sell 100 of them, the retail price – covering R&D and manual production, would be into the tens of thousands of pounds/dollars per unit sold.
   Thing is, with the original Fairlight, its unique selling potential was about far more than the nuance of the sound texture so, in this day and age, I think it'll have a hard time selling at such a premium for this aspect alone when all its other original unique selling points are long since superseded and by far, far cheaper equipment.

7. I wonder if a digital nostalgia wave is about to hit us, like analogue did. It might of course be that the most modern technology is still just an ever-more complex version of essentially digital sound and, if we wish to celebrate its essential non-complexity, there are already movements like 8-bit and circuit-bending of toy keyboards and so on.
   With any production effort, there is the aspect of basic material and assembly costs but – equally significant – the way an increasing market subdivides the overheads. For example, Korg's Kaossilator retails for £129 or, say $200 but if they were only planning to sell 100 of them, the retail price – covering R&D and manual production, would be into the tens of thousands of pounds/dollars per unit sold.
   Thing is, with the original Fairlight, its unique selling potential was about far more than the nuance of the sound texture so, in this day and age, I think it'll have a hard time selling at such a premium for this aspect alone when all its other original unique selling points are long since superseded and by far, far cheaper equipment.
   I see its market consisting in the successful pop musician who, growing up in the eighties, was wowed and inspired by those using it first time around. Now, they have lots of success and money themselves and tons and tons of equipment. What they'd maybe like, is one piece of equipment that has ample room for patient exploration and quality output, to simplify their methodology; their life etc. etc. and take them back to their original childhood inspiration, in the same way that people of my generation obsess over the modular synths and Radiophonic Workshop. Nostalgia for fabled simplicity has the appeal of the carefully built model railway set: it restores an illusion of personal control.

8. What I want to know is, what can the new Fairlight do that other sampling systems can't?

   Sure, the early units had a certain character to them (Peter Gabriel /Security) but now that we're in the age of crystal clear sound, what unique/better things can it possibly do? Why is it necessary to stick with the "mainframe" hardware model when a single unit with a display (similar in appearance to, say, Roland S-50 but with up to date OS/Hardware) with SIGNIFICANTLY lower cost would be in order?

   I just can't see Fairlight's current business plan in any feasible light.

9. its not the same thing

10. If it does everything that it's supposed to, then it definitely is worth the price. If you were to buy all the outboard gear and software to do everything that this little dynamo does then it would cost well over $17,000! Considering that when the Fairlight CMI came out it cost roughly $100,000 this isn't really that much.

11. That is bullshit and you know it. This thing is way overpriced.

12. Is this a joke? It can't be for real…

13. I'm sure both of the guys who buy one will be pleased.

14. HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA no.

15. There are clearly some very rich collectors out there. If you could make a quick buck re-manufacturing an old classic and selling it to these suckers, then why not. I applaude the Robin Hood’s of the audio world.

16. I have wasted more than 17-grand on shit that still doesn't work.
    Give me the old technology, always reliable and easy to use.
    We have to go back to making music again, instead of arsing around with updates, upgrades, apps and plug-ins. We've become so bloody insatiable, we've lost track of what we really want to do, which is make good music. This Fairlight I believe will bring us back there.
    Good thinking you Aussies.

17. And those two guys would be… Trevor Horn and Peter Gabriel?

18. It's a lot more than just the old Fairlight. Let us see what Fairlight does for their roadmap. As alternatives, there is the KYMA system from Symbolic Sound (2K-4K) and the IDARCA ACXEL-2 as well at cheaper price points. However, given the XYNERGI engine in this thing, it may supercede the others.

19. Don't get hung on the price people – there's a lot of money out there in the world. There's a lot of poor musicians so there are a lot of cheap instruments. The flipside is that because there are also a few rich musicians it pays to make expensive instruments for those people too. Even if I'll never own one of these I'd rather they exist than live in a world where you only ever see cheap things – how depressing would that be? Give up the jealousy and just enjoy the wonderful new stuff!!!

20. I can understand how it would be good to have an 80s style operating system. The general nature of tech developers inclines most of them towards adding things to what they're building. The result is often impaired cognitive focus due to the clumsy interfaces that result. You hardly realise it but you're constantly distracted away from making music by the tools you're using. I noticed this when I switched from a cheap Russian mechanical SLR camera to a computerised Nikon – most of the time it was fiddly and slow to get results with the Nikon – even if the quality was superior once you'd gotten properly set up. I ended up using the Nikon only for studio work and taking the cheap camera out where I needed to be a high-performance photographer and catch photos as they happened.

    I can imagine the same for this Fairlight – working with samples and rhythm page sequencing could be a lot of fun and flow with a stripped-down interface compared to an ordeal of menus and check boxes – like a rich mans MPC but with cool 80s styling…

21. Peter Vogel used to be my Hero.

    From 24 analog outputs (XLR – don’t forget first specs) we go to 12 outputs, then before even finished specs; now we go to 6 analog outputs. Not a one decent attempt by any player, to even demonstrate its power. No, only short sexy 8-bit demos everyone knows by heart. As the times go by, Peter gets even more and more vocal about specs. Even Fairlight’s forum end up as nothing but announcement wall for Peter messages. There is really no exchange, and such is labor.

    Had Peter envisioned more good will to CMI30A development and less attention to iPad folklore, perhaps results would give us more honest instrument then this. Implementation of Apple’s touchpad is no less then knife in the back, to all my expectations. Not even Peter could endure the fake promise of “Apple’s” innovation and had to attract us in the most disappointing way.

    Sadly, this is really nothing more then Peter said himself : “For those who could not afford Fairlight then, who listened Faitlight on the records and now have saved some money”

    Don’t get me wrong, I like knowing Fairlight exists and made CMI30A! After “charging no$talgia” and making some profit, I hope something really innovative comes from Peter again.

    Now I see that even some EU shops are claiming to have demonstration unit. That doesn’t sounds good to me. It seems Peter exaggerated nostalgia value and I hope I’m dead wrong. Otherwise this would turn in very poor sale.

    Let CMI IV cost even more, but please Peter, be consistent and honest as you were before. I much as I love Fairlight, as much as CS goes great guns and offers power in abundance, but I would be lying myself to turn off the honor of critical thinking. If CMI IV ever finds its way to my checkbook, I will look upon CMI30A, with different eyes.

22. Here's the key that many of you are missing. If you have the money, it is absolutely worth it! If you don't have the money, keep using what works for you. Because what the system has over everything else that you can buy today is that it's a COMPLETE turnkey system.

    If you have the money to invest in a Fairlight, or Synclavier type system, it works, and will always work and do whatever you need it to do, according to exactely what they say it is capable of doing to the max.

    Please name me "1" music company that can give you an all in 1 system that allows you to record/sample audio up to 192khz, gives you 24 pro quality analog outs, 64 pro digital outs, a 750gb HD, 73 key weighted keyboard, midi sequencing, FFT synthesis, Subtractive synthesis, all of these things at once without crashing, all manufactured by the SAME company to be purchased? NONE !!!!

23. Considering that 20K is a pretty low-end Grand piano, and 40K is a quite nice one, I'd have to say, 17K for a standalone // instrument // doesn't sound too bad 😉

24. I will bye a Propellerhead Reason 6 for 400 euro….thnx. I’m very shure right now.

25. Either does the Fairlight company has enough funds or they are incredibly stupid. Hello were living in a Mac world whereas no one except for a multimillionaire would ever buy a $17.000 plus cost keyboard unless you talk about the original Yamaha Gx-1. I agree, with a Commodore 8-16 bit and 1960’s look in a time where there so many good plugins for less then $ 500 whaaaaaaaaa are you kidding me? That’s like going to some Rich dude whereas he says yeahhh look at my Fairlight…. Cool man now look at my Macbook Pro pimped Mac with a huge Kontakt database and ehhhh all the million sounds I bought for less then $2.000 and they are 24 bit by the way lolI wish them all the success in the world. Thats like trying to pimp an Akai DD 1000 pay a shit load of money in a time where no one even uses that machine anymore due to flexibility which equals saving time and thus cash!

26. greed of some business ppl never satisfied….17-20 UDS for a digital sampler is a calculated highway robbery…and they didn’t even put a real vcf in it, the thing is fully digital…you get only emulations and simulations and not a real thing…original CMI 1 to 3 had real analog vcf that defined their sound…here they just wanna take yo money for white finish of cabinets and ancient light pen display to feed your nostalgia or something…better buy a ferrari if nostalgic and got money to burn, at least red car ain’t fake

27. Although I cannot afford such an instrument , people spend $20,000 on a new car that depreciates by thousands as soon as it drives out from the dealers. So its not a ridiculous price to pay , if you are creative and your art draws an income.
    Maybe a baby-grand piano would cost as much and nobody bats an eyelid at a grand piano standing there mute for years on end in hotels etc. for fear someone would play it.
    So , one is buying a piece of customized technology that defined an age and spawned a revolution in electronic musical history.
    It is the digital equivalent of a Stradivarius as long as Vogel is alive , long may he continue.

28. Guess who’s going to be buying this!!? “Noooobody”

29. dont forget that this is not a shitty cheap soundblaster card – the sound quality is awesome, a 303 software can never emulate the hardware one