http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qkn086-Mayk
Feeltune has announced the release of the Feeltune Rhizome, a real-time instrument for programming, recording and sampling.
The Rhizome is a hybrid groovebox in which you install virtual instruments and effects in a VST/VSTi format (For Pc). Once installed, you can mix your plug-in with the mixing desk; create your sequences, patterns and tracks with the multi modes and multi tracks sequencer which is the brain working behind the scene.
According to developers, the Rhizome is an aggregate of the best technology and know-how:
- For the Audio it is RME that does the job; it has been chosen because of its stability and sound quality which is recognized by everybody.
- For the display; forget the small monochrome displays; the Rhizome offers 4 large displays (24 bit colors)
- For the controllers; the Rhizome has 102 controllers in which you find 16 dynamic pads and 32 endless knobs
- You get the Windows XPE which is a version of Windows XP Pro that has been redesigned and compiled especially for Feeltune. It offers a better stability and a total compatibility with VSTs.
- For the effects and instruments; some of them have been developed by Ohm Force, well know key player of the market.
The video demo, above, looks at building a song with the Rhizome.
Specs below. See the Feeltune site for more information.
Technical Specifications
Rhizome SE:
- Intel Core 2 Duo 2,93 GHz x 2
- RAM / HD : 2 Go / 250 Go
- Plugs : 1 FireWire, 6 USB, 1 DVI, 1 HDMI, network Gigabit 100/100
- Audio : 1 headset, 2 balanced analog inputs and 2 balanced analog outputs, 1 ADAT, 1 SPDIF/AES, 1 E/S MIDI
- Feeltune software :
- Multitrack sequencer
- Virtual mixing desk
- VST/VSTi Host
- Drum Sampler
- Program Sampler
- Effects: Vocoder, Reverb, EQ, Distorsion, Filter, Flanger, Chorus, Delay, Compressor, Limiter, Bit Crusher, Pitch shifter, Stereolizer, Auto Pan, Enveloper, Multiband distortion, Deeser
- Synths : AcidLiner, SimpleSynth, Napper, TR 8s8, TR 9s9, TR6s6, TR 7s7, TR 7s27, L1nn Drum, DrumLator
- Ohm Force Sympthom synth- CopperPlug LE (over lan control)
- Dimensions : 52,4 x 42,7 x 14,1 cm (20.63 x 16.81 x 5.55 in)
- Poids : 12,5 kg (27,55 lb)
Rhizome XE:
The same than SE with :
- -Intel Core 2 Duo 2,93 Ghz x 2
- RAM / HD : 2 Go / 250 Go
- 6 balanced analog inputs
- Gforce Oddity
- Gforce Minimonstra
- Tight VNC
- CopperPlug MAX (over lan control)
Rhizome UXE:
The same than XE with :
- Intel Core 2 Quad 2,5 Ghz x 4
- RAM / HD : 4 Go / 500 Go
- Gforce Oddity
- Gforce Minimonstra
- Tight VNC
- CopperPlug MAX (over lan control)
- Other software sequencers or VST host compatible
Pricing (as reported via MacMusic): 3199,00 € (SE), 3399,00 € (XE), 3599,00 € (UXE). Note that official pricing is not available on the Feeltune site yet.
The only thing popping in my mind is "Its not Maschine".
Seriously; this isn't beat making in my book; its beat *programming*. For that price tag I'd expect more. At least having a choice in whether I want to program my beats or drum them in manually myself.
Sometimes programming make a logical choice (backed up by grooves or quantizing if need be) and at other times you'll get much better results by doing it manually yourself.
After picking up my MPD24 I'd never want to go back to a situation in which I'm limited to only programming.. ugh…
The only thing popping in my mind is "Its not Maschine".
Seriously; this isn't beat making in my book; its beat *programming*. For that price tag I'd expect more. At least having a choice in whether I want to program my beats or drum them in manually myself.
Sometimes programming make a logical choice (backed up by grooves or quantizing if need be) and at other times you'll get much better results by doing it manually yourself.
After picking up my MPD24 I'd never want to go back to a situation in which I'm limited to only programming.. ugh…
The only thing popping in my mind is "Its not Maschine".
Seriously; this isn't beat making in my book; its beat *programming*. For that price tag I'd expect more. At least having a choice in whether I want to program my beats or drum them in manually myself.
Sometimes programming make a logical choice (backed up by grooves or quantizing if need be) and at other times you'll get much better results by doing it manually yourself.
After picking up my MPD24 I'd never want to go back to a situation in which I'm limited to only programming.. ugh…
The only thing popping in my mind is "Its not Maschine".
Seriously; this isn't beat making in my book; its beat *programming*. For that price tag I'd expect more. At least having a choice in whether I want to program my beats or drum them in manually myself.
Sometimes programming make a logical choice (backed up by grooves or quantizing if need be) and at other times you'll get much better results by doing it manually yourself.
After picking up my MPD24 I'd never want to go back to a situation in which I'm limited to only programming.. ugh…
The only thing popping in my mind is "Its not Maschine".
Seriously; this isn't beat making in my book; its beat *programming*. For that price tag I'd expect more. At least having a choice in whether I want to program my beats or drum them in manually myself.
Sometimes programming make a logical choice (backed up by grooves or quantizing if need be) and at other times you'll get much better results by doing it manually yourself.
After picking up my MPD24 I'd never want to go back to a situation in which I'm limited to only programming.. ugh…
The only thing popping in my mind is "Its not Maschine".
Seriously; this isn't beat making in my book; its beat *programming*. For that price tag I'd expect more. At least having a choice in whether I want to program my beats or drum them in manually myself.
Sometimes programming make a logical choice (backed up by grooves or quantizing if need be) and at other times you'll get much better results by doing it manually yourself.
After picking up my MPD24 I'd never want to go back to a situation in which I'm limited to only programming.. ugh…
obviously, the prices you posted are wrong. they are €3.199, €3.399 and €3.599 as per MacMusic
rubbish, i would go for the spectralis in a heart beat. this is just a souped up pc with some software and some knobs, bah. for 3500 euro's!? The spectralis is cheaper and from the ground up, own OS, own philosophy and it has some nifty analog circuits, not just "analog" inputs,,what so so they can drop the word analog? good try, i was all excited….!
rubbish, i would go for the spectralis in a heart beat. this is just a souped up pc with some software and some knobs, bah. for 3500 euro's!? The spectralis is cheaper and from the ground up, own OS, own philosophy and it has some nifty analog circuits, not just "analog" inputs,,what so so they can drop the word analog? good try, i was all excited….!
rubbish, i would go for the spectralis in a heart beat. this is just a souped up pc with some software and some knobs, bah. for 3500 euro's!? The spectralis is cheaper and from the ground up, own OS, own philosophy and it has some nifty analog circuits, not just "analog" inputs,,what so so they can drop the word analog? good try, i was all excited….!
rubbish, i would go for the spectralis in a heart beat. this is just a souped up pc with some software and some knobs, bah. for 3500 euro's!? The spectralis is cheaper and from the ground up, own OS, own philosophy and it has some nifty analog circuits, not just "analog" inputs,,what so so they can drop the word analog? good try, i was all excited….!
rubbish, i would go for the spectralis in a heart beat. this is just a souped up pc with some software and some knobs, bah. for 3500 euro's!? The spectralis is cheaper and from the ground up, own OS, own philosophy and it has some nifty analog circuits, not just "analog" inputs,,what so so they can drop the word analog? good try, i was all excited….!
rubbish, i would go for the spectralis in a heart beat. this is just a souped up pc with some software and some knobs, bah. for 3500 euro's!? The spectralis is cheaper and from the ground up, own OS, own philosophy and it has some nifty analog circuits, not just "analog" inputs,,what so so they can drop the word analog? good try, i was all excited….!
What he said.
Updated with note.
@synthfan – since it's a computer as well, couldnt you plug the MPD24 into this thing and get both options?
@synthfan – since it's a computer as well, couldnt you plug the MPD24 into this thing and get both options?
@synthfan – since it's a computer as well, couldnt you plug the MPD24 into this thing and get both options?
@synthfan – since it's a computer as well, couldnt you plug the MPD24 into this thing and get both options?
@synthfan – since it's a computer as well, couldnt you plug the MPD24 into this thing and get both options?
@synthfan – since it's a computer as well, couldnt you plug the MPD24 into this thing and get both options?
Price is high but I would be more interested in this if it was just a controller and app, more like Maschine. That way, you could upgrade it whenever you wanted to.
I though it was cool. Only thing I didn't like was the way he seemed to have to stop/start to play back the sequence he just recorded in. This is not the case of the MPC. I think a groovebox should always flow and never have to stop. Ultimately you would like to be able to play/step beats, load samples, edit hits, add FX, record MIDI, mix and arrange into a song without ever stopping.
I though it was cool. Only thing I didn't like was the way he seemed to have to stop/start to play back the sequence he just recorded in. This is not the case of the MPC. I think a groovebox should always flow and never have to stop. Ultimately you would like to be able to play/step beats, load samples, edit hits, add FX, record MIDI, mix and arrange into a song without ever stopping.
I though it was cool. Only thing I didn't like was the way he seemed to have to stop/start to play back the sequence he just recorded in. This is not the case of the MPC. I think a groovebox should always flow and never have to stop. Ultimately you would like to be able to play/step beats, load samples, edit hits, add FX, record MIDI, mix and arrange into a song without ever stopping.
I though it was cool. Only thing I didn't like was the way he seemed to have to stop/start to play back the sequence he just recorded in. This is not the case of the MPC. I think a groovebox should always flow and never have to stop. Ultimately you would like to be able to play/step beats, load samples, edit hits, add FX, record MIDI, mix and arrange into a song without ever stopping.
I though it was cool. Only thing I didn't like was the way he seemed to have to stop/start to play back the sequence he just recorded in. This is not the case of the MPC. I think a groovebox should always flow and never have to stop. Ultimately you would like to be able to play/step beats, load samples, edit hits, add FX, record MIDI, mix and arrange into a song without ever stopping.
I though it was cool. Only thing I didn't like was the way he seemed to have to stop/start to play back the sequence he just recorded in. This is not the case of the MPC. I think a groovebox should always flow and never have to stop. Ultimately you would like to be able to play/step beats, load samples, edit hits, add FX, record MIDI, mix and arrange into a song without ever stopping.
I guess.
But at a pricetag which allows getting a dedicated PC, full DAW and Maschine (maybe even Komplete too) I think its a bit over the top.
Yet another attempt to sell a Windows machine worth maybe €600 for over 5 x the amount?
Well, they throw in the controller; that could have fetched another €200.
The software bundle is harder to estimate.
The "specially recompiled" XP version would not be very supported by MS now, would it?
Any problem running it with some non-bundled app, and you're out of luck, no?
Yay, here's a gem of investigative journalism, ie from their website:
"compatible with 95% of software packages on the market"
Yet another attempt to sell a Windows machine worth maybe €600 for over 5 x the amount?
Well, they throw in the controller; that could have fetched another €200.
The software bundle is harder to estimate.
The "specially recompiled" XP version would not be very supported by MS now, would it?
Any problem running it with some non-bundled app, and you're out of luck, no?
Yay, here's a gem of investigative journalism, ie from their website:
"compatible with 95% of software packages on the market"
Yet another attempt to sell a Windows machine worth maybe €600 for over 5 x the amount?
Well, they throw in the controller; that could have fetched another €200.
The software bundle is harder to estimate.
The "specially recompiled" XP version would not be very supported by MS now, would it?
Any problem running it with some non-bundled app, and you're out of luck, no?
Yay, here's a gem of investigative journalism, ie from their website:
"compatible with 95% of software packages on the market"
Yet another attempt to sell a Windows machine worth maybe €600 for over 5 x the amount?
Well, they throw in the controller; that could have fetched another €200.
The software bundle is harder to estimate.
The "specially recompiled" XP version would not be very supported by MS now, would it?
Any problem running it with some non-bundled app, and you're out of luck, no?
Yay, here's a gem of investigative journalism, ie from their website:
"compatible with 95% of software packages on the market"
Yet another attempt to sell a Windows machine worth maybe €600 for over 5 x the amount?
Well, they throw in the controller; that could have fetched another €200.
The software bundle is harder to estimate.
The "specially recompiled" XP version would not be very supported by MS now, would it?
Any problem running it with some non-bundled app, and you're out of luck, no?
Yay, here's a gem of investigative journalism, ie from their website:
"compatible with 95% of software packages on the market"
Yet another attempt to sell a Windows machine worth maybe €600 for over 5 x the amount?
Well, they throw in the controller; that could have fetched another €200.
The software bundle is harder to estimate.
The "specially recompiled" XP version would not be very supported by MS now, would it?
Any problem running it with some non-bundled app, and you're out of luck, no?
Yay, here's a gem of investigative journalism, ie from their website:
"compatible with 95% of software packages on the market"
They clearly were taking pricing advice from Teenage Engineering…
It is not really fair to post negative if you did not try yourself. This instrument is a good idea and if they run a good support and put down the price a bit, it is very interesting.
But just one last question: Where is Midi I/O/T ???
Have a nice day, bye
Tom, I understand your point. However I have tried almost every groovebox out there. I have tried almost every stepsequencer, real-time sequencer and what every polyrhythmic thingermejig. It is a shedload of money for an obselete OS, off the shelf software, homegrown hardware and maybe a flimsy layer of software to patch it all together. It is going to be a lot of money for a not so unique system. And trust me like MS, a legacy OS with homegrown hardware and software (besides vst software) is a lot of overhead and a lot of Murphy's law…..If they had taken the korg approach (a very slender version of Linux) I would have some more trust in their capabilities…..
Tom, I understand your point. However I have tried almost every groovebox out there. I have tried almost every stepsequencer, real-time sequencer and what every polyrhythmic thingermejig. It is a shedload of money for an obselete OS, off the shelf software, homegrown hardware and maybe a flimsy layer of software to patch it all together. It is going to be a lot of money for a not so unique system. And trust me like MS, a legacy OS with homegrown hardware and software (besides vst software) is a lot of overhead and a lot of Murphy's law…..If they had taken the korg approach (a very slender version of Linux) I would have some more trust in their capabilities…..
Tom, I understand your point. However I have tried almost every groovebox out there. I have tried almost every stepsequencer, real-time sequencer and what every polyrhythmic thingermejig. It is a shedload of money for an obselete OS, off the shelf software, homegrown hardware and maybe a flimsy layer of software to patch it all together. It is going to be a lot of money for a not so unique system. And trust me like MS, a legacy OS with homegrown hardware and software (besides vst software) is a lot of overhead and a lot of Murphy's law…..If they had taken the korg approach (a very slender version of Linux) I would have some more trust in their capabilities…..
Tom, I understand your point. However I have tried almost every groovebox out there. I have tried almost every stepsequencer, real-time sequencer and what every polyrhythmic thingermejig. It is a shedload of money for an obselete OS, off the shelf software, homegrown hardware and maybe a flimsy layer of software to patch it all together. It is going to be a lot of money for a not so unique system. And trust me like MS, a legacy OS with homegrown hardware and software (besides vst software) is a lot of overhead and a lot of Murphy's law…..If they had taken the korg approach (a very slender version of Linux) I would have some more trust in their capabilities…..
Tom, I understand your point. However I have tried almost every groovebox out there. I have tried almost every stepsequencer, real-time sequencer and what every polyrhythmic thingermejig. It is a shedload of money for an obselete OS, off the shelf software, homegrown hardware and maybe a flimsy layer of software to patch it all together. It is going to be a lot of money for a not so unique system. And trust me like MS, a legacy OS with homegrown hardware and software (besides vst software) is a lot of overhead and a lot of Murphy's law…..If they had taken the korg approach (a very slender version of Linux) I would have some more trust in their capabilities…..
Tom, I understand your point. However I have tried almost every groovebox out there. I have tried almost every stepsequencer, real-time sequencer and what every polyrhythmic thingermejig. It is a shedload of money for an obselete OS, off the shelf software, homegrown hardware and maybe a flimsy layer of software to patch it all together. It is going to be a lot of money for a not so unique system. And trust me like MS, a legacy OS with homegrown hardware and software (besides vst software) is a lot of overhead and a lot of Murphy's law…..If they had taken the korg approach (a very slender version of Linux) I would have some more trust in their capabilities…..
NoB, that's right, that is why i hope that they run a good support, capable of bringend Updates and Free Sounds. I am also a groovebox-fan since ever, and i am still working with Roland MC909 as Sequencer for around 10 other Synths / Soundmodules. I tried to work with Cubase and VST Plugins, but i found myself bored by that way of making music. I need Hardware. Then i discovered MOTU's BPM which is, in my opinion, the perfect groovebox, but again, if found myself bored by working with the mice and PC, it's just not the same as hardware. So i was hoping/dreaming that Rhizome would allow me to do the same as with BPM on a pure Hardware basis. I will check it out these days in the store, so i will know more. And, imagine it would be sold for USD 1000 , People would certainly run the stores because the idea behind Rhizome is interesting. I hope that SOS will make a review soon, they do the best test of such gear. Have a nice day and good sound 🙂
NoB, that's right, that is why i hope that they run a good support, capable of bringend Updates and Free Sounds. I am also a groovebox-fan since ever, and i am still working with Roland MC909 as Sequencer for around 10 other Synths / Soundmodules. I tried to work with Cubase and VST Plugins, but i found myself bored by that way of making music. I need Hardware. Then i discovered MOTU's BPM which is, in my opinion, the perfect groovebox, but again, if found myself bored by working with the mice and PC, it's just not the same as hardware. So i was hoping/dreaming that Rhizome would allow me to do the same as with BPM on a pure Hardware basis. I will check it out these days in the store, so i will know more. And, imagine it would be sold for USD 1000 , People would certainly run the stores because the idea behind Rhizome is interesting. I hope that SOS will make a review soon, they do the best test of such gear. Have a nice day and good sound 🙂
NoB, that's right, that is why i hope that they run a good support, capable of bringend Updates and Free Sounds. I am also a groovebox-fan since ever, and i am still working with Roland MC909 as Sequencer for around 10 other Synths / Soundmodules. I tried to work with Cubase and VST Plugins, but i found myself bored by that way of making music. I need Hardware. Then i discovered MOTU's BPM which is, in my opinion, the perfect groovebox, but again, if found myself bored by working with the mice and PC, it's just not the same as hardware. So i was hoping/dreaming that Rhizome would allow me to do the same as with BPM on a pure Hardware basis. I will check it out these days in the store, so i will know more. And, imagine it would be sold for USD 1000 , People would certainly run the stores because the idea behind Rhizome is interesting. I hope that SOS will make a review soon, they do the best test of such gear. Have a nice day and good sound 🙂
NoB, that's right, that is why i hope that they run a good support, capable of bringend Updates and Free Sounds. I am also a groovebox-fan since ever, and i am still working with Roland MC909 as Sequencer for around 10 other Synths / Soundmodules. I tried to work with Cubase and VST Plugins, but i found myself bored by that way of making music. I need Hardware. Then i discovered MOTU's BPM which is, in my opinion, the perfect groovebox, but again, if found myself bored by working with the mice and PC, it's just not the same as hardware. So i was hoping/dreaming that Rhizome would allow me to do the same as with BPM on a pure Hardware basis. I will check it out these days in the store, so i will know more. And, imagine it would be sold for USD 1000 , People would certainly run the stores because the idea behind Rhizome is interesting. I hope that SOS will make a review soon, they do the best test of such gear. Have a nice day and good sound 🙂
NoB, that's right, that is why i hope that they run a good support, capable of bringend Updates and Free Sounds. I am also a groovebox-fan since ever, and i am still working with Roland MC909 as Sequencer for around 10 other Synths / Soundmodules. I tried to work with Cubase and VST Plugins, but i found myself bored by that way of making music. I need Hardware. Then i discovered MOTU's BPM which is, in my opinion, the perfect groovebox, but again, if found myself bored by working with the mice and PC, it's just not the same as hardware. So i was hoping/dreaming that Rhizome would allow me to do the same as with BPM on a pure Hardware basis. I will check it out these days in the store, so i will know more. And, imagine it would be sold for USD 1000 , People would certainly run the stores because the idea behind Rhizome is interesting. I hope that SOS will make a review soon, they do the best test of such gear. Have a nice day and good sound 🙂
NoB, that's right, that is why i hope that they run a good support, capable of bringend Updates and Free Sounds. I am also a groovebox-fan since ever, and i am still working with Roland MC909 as Sequencer for around 10 other Synths / Soundmodules. I tried to work with Cubase and VST Plugins, but i found myself bored by that way of making music. I need Hardware. Then i discovered MOTU's BPM which is, in my opinion, the perfect groovebox, but again, if found myself bored by working with the mice and PC, it's just not the same as hardware. So i was hoping/dreaming that Rhizome would allow me to do the same as with BPM on a pure Hardware basis. I will check it out these days in the store, so i will know more. And, imagine it would be sold for USD 1000 , People would certainly run the stores because the idea behind Rhizome is interesting. I hope that SOS will make a review soon, they do the best test of such gear. Have a nice day and good sound 🙂
Why the hell there’s so much people repeating posts???
What the hell leads your comments to be posted 4 times?
Are you trying to gain post quantity to be considered as a best poster???
Please!