Behringer today released this overview of the filter(s) on the new DeepMind 12 polyphonic analog synthesizer.
Features:
- Selectable 2- or 4-pole slope ‘fully-resonant’ low-pass filter, per voice
- Shared variable high-pass filter
- Switchable 12db bass boost
- LFO Depth control
- Bi-polar envelope depth
- Variable VCF keyboard tracking
Pricing and Availability
The Behringer DeepMind 12 is priced at about $1,000 and is expected to be available in late 2016.
Teaser comment. My thoughts on this will be revaled at one point. Maybe this week, maybe next year. Trust me though, it’s a killer comment.
Not realy teasers anymore, it’s announced and priced, just a series of videos showing it off-
No, they are actually revealing very little, but making it seem like a lot.
Interesting that the filters only appear to have 256 steps. That seems pretty low resolution for sweeps. Maybe there is a corresponding LSB register to the MSB that isn’t shown on that display?
I noticed that too.
I have reservations about what corners have been cut in this thing.
They need to mail one to Nick Batt and get it over with.
The filters don’t have just 256 steps, they are analogue. the stepping you can hear is just harmonics.
However, I really hope lots and lots of people look for the negatives and have reservations about some feature or another or perhaps want to wait to see what the quality is like as I suspect it will be very difficult for those of us who just want to buy it as soon as possible to do so. Its a 12 voice 24 oscillator polly with lots of hands on controls and TC effects for under a 1000 bucks.
What?
An analog filter sweeping thru it’s harmonics does not step.
A filter that is digitally controlled steps.
But regardless, the comment wasn’t about hearing the filter stepping, it was about the filter display on screen only showing 256 discrete values.
That seems low.
caligari, listening to a filter slowly sweep through a sound with specific harmonics CAN sound like stepping. To tell if it’s not smooth, filter sweep white noise.
But that’s not what we are talking about here.
I think slic is right. It is a VCF (not a DCF).
However, it does have to display some values while the slider, envelope, or LFO sweeps smoothly from one value to the next.
It also has to store presets, so if it can only store 256 possible values that’s probably fine for that particular parameter. If you take the 10 octaves (our ideal range of hearing), divide each octave into 25.6 steps, that’s about 2.4 cutoff values per half-step– which I think is plenty. It’s just the starting value. After that, we can assume that with voltage controls, the mod sources aren’t stepped or digital.
For an oscillator’s pitch, it’s obviously not enough– but they can step up the resolution for that parameter.
Drums sounds fine to me !
You aren’t buying a polysynth for the drum track though.
We want to hear raw demos of each voice component.
Then they can do little song demos all they want.
Even shitty Poly 800s sound ok in a mix.
I’m still interested, hope to play one in a music shop soon and see/hear in person
I agree. I want to hear how it sounds in person before I decide anything.
I for one could have done without the drum track.
That price seems pretty attractive though.
i need that desktop version so bad… wow havent gassed this hard in years
overwhelming backup track…synth sounds thin…polys should sound lush
For synthesists, and me being one of them , This synth is of interest to me.
I look forward to others products and hopefully a cheap mono synth.
I wait patiently for their 8 audio output sampler ……….or sample player as we do not need a sampler with a sequencer on board just a lightweight sampler.
This synth so far sounds beautiful and given the screen , it offers fully control and clear programmability. Thank you Behringer.
I have to buy one now! I have no choice! I just watched all the teasers again, and I’m sold! 1000!!!?? Insane!!
Something more interseting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sy3B9plPCY
That was a much more thorough and revealing overview than we have seen.
The only things it kind of passed by where the physical in/outs on the back, and it didn’t at all demo how those envelopes sound. Would have loved to hear a very fast decay on the filter cutoff, and what a short attack on either amp or filter was like. Swept pitch would also have been nice to hear.
Not complaining. It was good! Just made me realize how my own curiosities aren’t always satisfied in these demos.
I’m actually trying to not like it (just cuz I shouldn’t buy another piece of gear); but it is proving to be difficult. They keep showing me stuff I love about it.
Ha, ha. These dudes are funny here. You got this crazy monster 12 voice analog poly, and it is all, “well I’ll reserve judgment till I hear a raw osc with an in store demo”, or, “I won’t make a call till Nick Batt calls it for me – because I am a sheep.”
IT IS AN AMAZING 12 VOICE ANALOG POLY WITH SUPER DIGITAL CONTROLS FOR $999!!!
That so far looks and sounds very good. Your options are that you like this and cough up $999 or pay twice as much for less. And, finesse or not, you quacks ain’t making that call your wife or bank manager is making it for you.
You do know you can just buy stuff online and send it back for a full refund if it doesn’t suit your needs, it’s like the law, or something. I think it is time to get over yourselves, this is this – you funny sorts of people.
We don’t know if it’s “amazing”. The demos we have seen make it seem pretty mediocre and dependent entirely upon it’s in-built effects engine.
That’s why we are withholding judgement until more demos are available or hands on.
But you can preorder all you want sight unseen.
It’s possible I have this wrong, but I really dislike the lack of resonance control for the high pass filter. The OB-6 does a similarly annoying thing with its filter sharing the same knob for hi and low pass… Two filters, two full sets of controls. Ms 20 could do it, prophet 6 does it. It’s important!