This image, via Bucranium Beats, shows their DIY keyboard conversion for the Behringer D synthesizer.
The DIY Model D stand is based on a two-octave keyboard, taken from a Midiman Oxygen 8 MIDI controller.
It looks like a fairly straightforward DIY project – but it seems like there’s also an opportunity for Behringer, or someone else, to create a basic keyboard control that includes space for Euro-format synth voices, like the Behringer D or the Moog Mother-32.
Do you think Behringer should make a ‘D keyboard’ or a MIDI keyboard case for Euro synth voices? Let us know what you think in the comments!
The only real improvement to this synth is the inclusion of patch memories. Imagine that .
Strange how often people ask for patch memory or MIDI cc control on pure analog synths – especially recreations of vintage ones!
Why. Most people love the vintage sound but that doesn’t mean the technology behind it should be vintage as well right?
As soon as you add MIDI cc control and patch memory, it means the entire architecture of the synthesizer has to change to use encoders. And you have to add LEDs for every switch and knob, to show the state when you load a new patch.
That may or may not be a good thing – but it’s not a trivial thing!
And, in the case of the “D”, it would not be a Model D knockoff anymore, it would be more like a Voyager knockoff.
it would change sound too
I was thinking the same but it won’t happen. Why would Behringer build a synth for which he would have to compete with such established synth makers as Roland and SE, on an identical product and without being able to offer a substantially lower cost? It’s quite ironic that Behringer started with DeepMind aiming to go against the big players but is ending up cleaning house among the smaller ones. At a boutique level, at these prices, Behringer has absolutely no competition. I wouldn’t be surprised if they started making modules for 100-150$ a piece.
Looks pretty nice
It would be great to have a keyboard for them!
I’d like to see an inexpensive version of the Waldorf kb37, which is gorgeous and worth the money, but overkill for housing a Behringer D.
It seems like someone should be able to make a decent keyboard case for under $500, if they can do it in volume.
Yes – maybe an even closer point of reference would be Roland’s K-25m dock for their Boutique synths.
The main difference is that for Behringer’s Euro-compatible synths, you don’t need the power supply and power rail of something like the KB37, which adds considerably to the cost. The ideal thing would be to have those as an add-on, so you could drop in a Model D or Neutron, but expand into Eurorack modules later if you wanted.
If Arturia’s RackBrute series is a success, there’s a very good chance we’ll see Behringer get into that market.
Arturia should make a RackBrute version of the KeyStep. Something like a MiniBrute 2 without the synth part, but with a more powerful sequencer.
Yes! Similar to the Waldorf kb37 but in 49 keys so there’s more space for modules. If the key action is like the Deepmind 12 is good enough.
Is this just three pieces of plywood screwed together around the other parts?
Yes, the other parts were floating close to each other and this guy just took plywood pieces and screw them around those. No merit in that
If by keyboard you mean 88 weighted note hammer action velocity and polyphonic aftertouch, yes. Even though it’s a monophonic synth, it would be nice to chain some together. If it has to be a smaller form factor, then by all means, I agree with the Waldorf kb37 look that is customized for 3 or 4 D’s and/or some Neutrons and other euro rack modules. I would gladly buy either or those two options but a two octave keyboard?
Please make either a 10” rack version or full side model D now Moog have finished making them.
But they haven’t finished.
They just announced preorders for a run of Walnut cased Minis.
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MinimoogDWal–moog-minimoog-model-d-analog-synthesizer-walnut-limited-edition
Behringer should do a Memorymoog first and foremost – that’s what they should do.
Period.
Because one thing is for certain:
A new polyphonic Moog will definitively NOT come from Moog itself.
Hello there, Uli!
Isn’t Moog working on a Phatty 08? Tentatively called the Obeast.
I’m a bit ‘plexed that Moog DOESN’T finally develop a Memorymoog. With the Animoog and Bob Moog’s own approval of Arturia’s Modular Moog as evidence, it doesn’t seem like the coding would be an issue. I’m alright with them being big-A Analog, of course. I once owned a Minimoog and had a blast rocking it with guitar pedals, so personally, I’d love to see Moog’s version of a semi-DeepMind12 thang. You know they could “easily” design a superior, modest $2500 poly that would shave like a DX7 patch called ThroatRAZR. Anyway, the topic sounds interesting and utilitarian, but I’m holding out for a total Jupiter-8 rebuild. Give it a really solid keyboard and I’d be all over it. Its my personal hardware fetish.
So are you suggesting a Moog analog polysynth, like the MemoryMoog, or a Moog VA, like Arturia’s Modular V?
I’d honestly be more interested in the latter. Moog has (or has partnered with) some incredible DSP talent for the Model 15 iPad app, and while I can’t quite imagine Asheville building a digital synthesizer ever, can you imagine fusing Sub37-caliber hardware with the brains of the virtual Model 15?
Im waiting for the first eurorack modules from behringer nothing else 🙂
hell yeah
they should make a universal keyboard setup like this since they are planning on making more in the form factor – one thing though – don’t do it like the one above that has no mod & pitch wheel.
But the Neutron and Model D have different widths. Neutron has a bigger HP.
I wouldn’t be interested.
I’m more interested in gear I can stick in a rack, or multitimbral synths with multiple outputs. So the Behringer-D, and forthcoming Behringer Pro One, fit the bill for fitting in a rack (though I’d prefer stand-alone, instead of Euro-based). So from Behringer I’d like them to just keep on making more inexpensive rack synths.
thy keys are ivory.. cloned from elephant tusks.
Mammut tusks. Life finds a way
No ….. two octaves is not enough tor a player. The Minimoog is not a one note wonder instrument .. its a players instrument .. think Corea, Wakeman, Hammer, Emerson, Aiery etc., its not like it has a quick transpose button either (at least my real Minimoog doesn’t) Leave the keyboard idea alone and work on getting more of these built to fill the mega back orders. Thanks
JMO based on my own experiences with the original (and obviously YMMV), but for me the two most expressive parts of ACTUALLY playing the original Minimoog were the pitch and mod wheels. This very little keyboard apparently has neither.
Oh yeah that too doh! Can’t do those Jan Hammer solos without em. Behringer just concentrate on getting what you already have out the door and let us worry about triggering and mounting the synth.
Yes, but please add pitch, mod wheel…. also this lfo rate knob, glide and decay..as moogs has ..thank you 🙂
No.
A full size keyboard is what I am missing these day’s. Quality keys instead of toys.
How about a keyboard that can adapt the modules to be integrated – a bit like the Korg M3 so the size/type can work depending on the users needs? (make it adjustable to adapt the size/type or standardize the cases). This then caters to those that want modules and also those that want a more integrated keyboard based synth.
I’m not a fan of modules or rack synths as the racks or modules are never in the most ergonomic place to use/program them. As someone who replaced a lot of keyboard versions with 19″ racks and then promptly just didn’t use them as they were too awkward to edit/program.
It needs to have to be a ‘Good’ keybed though WITH aftertouch and several switch and continuous pedal controller inputs otherwise its a no go.
I personally think a 2 octave keyboard is pointless though!
Would the model d fit in a Roland k25m? They had new D’s at my local guitar centaur for $205, not sure if it was missmarked, but I couldn’t pass it up.
Got several midi devices it works fine with, but I’m a guitar player and like the idea of a simple little synth. I have asked on several other forums and no one seems to know, brand loyalty and what not… thanks