35 thoughts on “Behringer Model D + Waldorf KB37 – A Poor Man’s Minimoog?”

1. If you can afford a Waldorf KB37 you’re not so poor…

   1. That was my immediate reaction too 🙂

2. Your title is wrong and a misquote of the original video. To quote the video, he said “I’m not gonna say a poor man’s Moog Model D. This is more like a less wealthy man’s Model D.” Since with the Waldorf KB37, it is still well over a grand altogether.

   For all the Behringer haters that like to spout off on here, the best thing about this video is that the Waldorf KB37 he spent more money on ended up being faulty, not the Behringer Model D. You folks like to bash Behringer, but Waldorf seems to be selling expensive faulty gear.

   1. Yes, and whom did Waldorf steal the KB37 idea from?

      1. Why not just let the lawyers decide if anyone has stolen something? I am pretty sure that “we” do not have any insight, therefore making such claims while being uninformed is not helpful.

         1. Just because there is no laws that prevent behringer from making this minimoog ripoff, does not mean it’s not a ripoff.

            1. Where were your tears for Moog when Studio Electronics were cloning them?

               1. It’s not OK to make copies of other people’s work and sell it as your own. The only reason to manufacture a cheap little copy of the Minimoog is to take advantage of Moog’s reputation and status in the marketplace. It’s dirty business.

                  1. Yes, it is ok. The law explicitly says as much in as far as if patent or copyright has expired then it’s fine. If that weren’t the case then you’d be paying $$$ for aspirin. You may not feel it is morally acceptable, but ‘feels’ don’t count for much in law.

                     1. There’s the law, and there’s what’s right. They can make this clone, and I can think it’s tacky as hell and never buy one.

                     2. You’re claiming that it’s legal, not that it’s right. There is a significant difference.

   2. Mike

      “Your title is wrong and a misquote of the original video.”

      Thanks for the feedback.

      Sadly, your comment is wrong and a misrepresentation of the article title.

      You’ll find that nothing in the title is set in quotes – because it’s not a quote.

      Leave challenging the use of quotes in the first paragraph to set off an expression to the grammar nerds. Trust me, on this one, Mike!

      1. The Smart Man That Knows How To Budget’s Minimoog sounds better 😉

3. Here’s an idea… Behringer should clone that KB37.

   1. Without the faulty volume knob. 😉

   2. really they should since they are making other syths in the same form factor – maybe even do little bit of tweaking by either making it fit 2 units in length or height.

4. Given the price of the Waldorf KB, which I do think is a nice concept, it certainly is not for a poor man.

5. A Moog for The Common Man?

   1. A Moog for sensible man…

6. THe keyboard controller for X4 price of the synthesizer itself…

7. Poor man’s Minimoog? I’d rather have the Behringer Model D than a vintage Minimoog.

   1. Agreed

8. I’ll just use the Behringer Model D with the keyboards I already own. No need to spend $1000 on a fancy Eurorack case to hold a desktop synth.

   1. The harsh truth.

9. Who did Waldorf steal the idea from? These guys…
   https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2013/12/30/super37-eurorack-keyboard-controller/

   1. That’s from 2013, but I have some prior art:

      – the buchla system 101 (1971)
      – aries modular 300 (1970s)
      – analogue systems sorcerer (2001?)

      But frankly, the idea of a keyboard in a modular case seems so blindingly obvious to me that I don’t think anyone can own it. Just like I think anyone can copy the basic architecture of a minimoog. It’s when you start taking the exact look, panel layout, etc. that you cross a line – in my mind.

      I don’t think I would ever buy a behringer d, but I might’ve bought a neutron or a deepmind. Originality matters, to me anyway.

      1. Front panel layouts IP are governed by design patents which only cover the exact Configurations and aspects of appearance. As such they are the easiest to get around and the weakest type of IP, and therefor the least important property of an invention.

         1. Cool. Cool. Thanks for the legal advice. I’ll remember that next time I invent a market-defining instrument and get ripped off.

            1. I’ve learned because I actually invented things.

10. The most interesting this about this is the huge vacant space after the Boog. That’s a lot of room for future expansion & innovation!!

11. Most important is what the guy himself says in the video thumbnail: its fun, no matter what everybody else thinks.

12. I think it’s pretty pointless to stick the D in any Eurorack. It need 1 A of power from your Euro supply. That’s pretty intense considering most supplies are only 1.5 A to start with, including the Waldorf.

    You can’t use the power adapter once the case is removed…well not without modding it.

13. all your comments are not original…

14. Jesus people need to get a life.

15. I remember back when the poor man’s Minimoog WAS a Minimoog lol. After having both mine in the Los Angeles Recycler for almost a month $150.00 was the best I could get.