14 thoughts on “Synth Startup ‘Nave Electronics’ Now ‘Infradeep’”

1. synthtopia we called that one.

2. Does this mean that quasimidi are still around? enough to make a trademark complaint, anyway?

   Also, infradeep is an awesome name.

   1. i think it means Waldorf are still around …

   2. Nave is trademarked by a company called Nave that has nothing to do with Waldorf or Quasimidi. I explained in the previous thread and the USPTO database is free for all to search.

      1. Cheers. But they also appear to have dropped the name “polymorph”. Maybe just because it was rubbish. Or is that also in the USPTO database?

         1. Possibly it’s because a number of people expressed confusion and dismay at a mono synth with the word Poly in the name.

3. I don´t want be a grammarnazi…my english isnt perfect either. But what the hack is that dude saying in this vid…a mix of english and russian? That synthesizer may be very nice but it shouldnt be promoted that way…

4. I did not understand 50% of what the guy in the video said…

   1. it think they said: in russia we don’t rename synthesizer, synthesizer rename us. or something.

5. Infradeep’s a very cool name. Being from Siberia something like Chill Electronics might have worked as well. Or even “United Siberian Synthesizer Corp.” Their being from Siberia is a very marketable thing and it would be good to make use of that. When demonstrating at trade shows they could wear fur coats and hats and for schwag have tee shirts that say “USSC” with a large red star or a bear.

   As crall pointed out, there’s a company called Nave that makes audio and video encoders and readers used in TV broadcasts and they have a registered trademark on the term Nave. They are in the audio, video and media industries, but not explicitly the musical instruments industry. Trademarks apply to specific industries. Nave Electronics use with this synth wouldn’t infringe on Nave Corporation’s trademark, but if Nave Electronics wanted to sell audio interfaces, or add USB audio support to their instruments in the future, at that point they would be infringing and would have a good chance of receiving a letter from Nave Corporation that eventually would result in not being able to sell their products outside Russia. So the company name change is forward looking.

   I didn’t have any problems at all understanding the guy in the video, whose name I presume to be Ivan or Boris.

   1. one of the trademark categories is “electronic circuits” which is exactly what a synthesizer is. Although I am not a lawyer, I disagree with your assessment.

      1. Hm, well the categories are separated by a semicolon there and they’ve got 3:

         1. Computer software and hardware for use in encoding, reading, and analyzing broadcast, television, video and audio signals, audio and video coding and decoding of same, namely, computer software program and computer hardware and firmware, namely, electronic and integrated circuits;

         2. audio and video encoders;

         3. and electronic audio and video readers

         Category 1 is much more specific than circuits in the broad sense. It’s circuits for “encoding, reading, and analyzing broadcast, television, video and audio signals, audio and video coding and decoding of same”.

         Category 2 and 3 are for “audio and video” not “audio and/or video” or “audio or video”. Courts looking at these things tend to pay a lot of attention to distinctions between and and or, as well as to the enumeration of lists.

         I think it’s possible nothing the Siberians do is going to infringe on this trademark, which is now owned by Nielsen Media Research interestingly.

         But it’s a little close and it’s better for them to avoid it then to later end up in a dispute.

         The chance that Nielsen ratings will start making synths or things in the Siberian company’s market is quite low.

         No idea why Nielsen bought this company. That’s strange.

   2. They should of called themselves Cyberia.

      1. > Cyberia

         That is very very good.