Behringer Intros Swing MIDI Controller, An Arturia Keystep ‘Knockoff’

Behringer today introduced the Swing, a USB MIDI keyboard controller and step sequencer.

The Swing is a 32-note minikey controller & sequencer that can be used to control synths via USB MIDI  or via CV/Gate.

The Swing appears to be closely patterned after the Arturia Keystep MIDI controller:

Many have noted the resemblance on the company’s announcement on Facebook, with one follower asking, “So it’s the Keystep?” Others are calling it a ‘blatant knockoff’ and noting “Unless you are blind, it’s impossible not to see it’s the same thing!”

The design similarities continue around the back:

The Behringer Swing (shown at top in the above photo) has the same connectivity options and layout as the Keystep.

Behringer says that the Swing will retail for about $99, about $30 less than the street price of the Arturia Keystep.

Features:

  • 32 minikeys featuring velocity and after-touch functionality
  • 64-step sequencer features 8-note polyphonic sequence with Rest, Tie, and Legato note entry
  • Arpeggiator mode features, up, down, inclusive, exclusive, random, note order, double up and double down modes
  • Chord Play Mode with single chord memory with up to 16 notes for extensive loops and long-playing samples
  • Pitch and modulation touch-strips
  • Performance control includes Rec, Play, and Stop buttons for the sequencer and arpeggiator
  • Rate and Tap Tempo
  • Sustain via hold button or through an optional sustain pedal (not included)
  • Shift function includes MIDI channel selection, gate time, swing values
  • Connect with MIDI, CV/Gate, DIN Sync, and Sync I/O
  • USB/MIDI
  • Can be powered by Apple iPad (via camera connection kit) or standalone DC Jack (not included)

Pricing and Availability

The Behringer Swing is priced at $99 USD and is expected to start shipping next week.

120 thoughts on “Behringer Intros Swing MIDI Controller, An Arturia Keystep ‘Knockoff’”

    2. It’s not legal. If Behringer did that to Apple, Apple would sue them into oblivion. But Arturia, unfortunately, doesn’t have the legal power Apple has.

    3. You can’t patent voltage dividers nor midi standard, you can’t patent 50 year old tech nor keyboards, even if the form factor is copied its still so standard that it’s fair use

  4. For $30 less you’d be pretty silly to get it. Behringer’s got poor build quality, with stray parts of metal often rattling around inside, and their warranty is very difficult to make use of unless you like incredibly complex processes that usually result in being required to ship things at your own expense overseas.

    Love the knock-off mention though, that always causes Uli to post here with various aliases about it. It totally triggers the dude. He’s so predictable.

    1. That’s not even close to being true. I own behringer products, as well as Arturia, Korg, etc. Build quality on behringer products are overall pretty good. I’ve had korg, Arturia, moog products that failed early on due to build or components. Not every product coming off the line by korg, arturia, moog is perfect. I do not put down any of these company’s products due to ‘here and there’ problems.

      1. which behringer products do you own and how have you managed to miss all the terrible ones?

        maybe if you list the ones you bought, we can give you the list of things you hadn’t yet realised aren’t working.

        how much would you like to wager on the firmware of this device being badly broken?

        1. im not entirely convinced that the commenters that come out of the wordwork to defend behringer everytime aren’t paid. Legitimate concern. Is there any other brand that is so militantly defended on this forum?

          1. Is there any other brand that is so militantly attacked on this forum?

            Of course these attacks can be vehemently defended or justified, based on one’s perspective of the company and their tactics.

            There are Behringer haters and Behringer lovers, and others that take the middle path.

            1. How is calling a knockoff a knockoff in any way a ‘militant attack’?

              freqbox brought up a legitimate concern. Any time anyone brings up legitimate concerns about Behringer’s sleazy business practices – the knockoffs, the poor quality, the harassment, the hate speech, the anti-free speech lawsuits – there’s somebody using the company’s playbook of whataboutism.

              Your comment is part of the problem – ignoring Behringer’s behavior and giving them a free pass.

              Calling out bad behavior doesn’t make somebody a ‘hater’ – it makes them a responsible human being.

        2. I really dislike what Behringer has done here, but I own a lot of their other stuff and have had zero problems — and definitely no rattling metal or failed units. Since you asked for a list:

          DM-12
          DM-12d
          Odyssey
          MS-101
          Neutron
          Pro-1
          The smiley-face 303
          VC-340
          3x Model D
          2x Full racks of their Moog Modular clone
          Cat (just got)

          All purchased with my own money. I’m not sponsored or anything (to address freqbox’s comment). I take issue with some of the things they’ve done, but most of their products have been good, in my experience.

          But, IMO, this cloning of an in-production controller keyboard is not cool at all.

          1. of those I know of issues with the ms101 (hardware: portamento switch, fixed with sysex (!)), pro1 (firmware: mod wheel, firmware: envelopes), cat (firmware: envelopes) and model D(hardware tuning – maybe your unit is not susceptible).

            1. their old mixers have a reputation for that, totally different team doing the synthesizers, the odyssey and neutron i’ve picked up have been solid and fantastic

              1. Not only their old ones. They use cheap ass capacitors… Development teams and production facility plus component sourcing are different shoes.

              2. I still have a couple of their older mixers that are over 25 years old now and they still work fine, one of them got used twice a week for something like 3 years in a live setting w/o issues. I am sure they made some stuff that broke but I haven’t had issues.

      2. Issues with build quality aren’t exclusive to Behringer. I’ve had crappy builds from Akai and even Roland. I’d feel much more confident with a Moog product.

        It must be challenging to bring a product to market with outstanding build quality. Not impossible, though.

    2. I work in professional live audio and sound reinforcement. In the firm I work at about 70-80% of the Behringer gear bought has broken.

      We’ve also had Behringer/Music Group owned speakers like the new Turbosounds, 3/4 of which have broken.

      In the long run it gets expensive to not invest in high quality equipment. My X32 and one old Behringer active monitor still work fine, but they are the odd ones out.

      Behringer products are cheap because they don’t mostly do research, they copy, and they use very cheap parts that have a higher likelihood of breaking. It’s fine if you just need something cheap that works for a little while.

    3. Hi Rabid Bat, I’ve complained about the “knock off” sentence before but I’m not an Uli alias. I’ve not bought any of the behringer vintage synths but that’s not because I think they’re counterfeit goods.

      In this case I think the knock off phrasing is totally right. There’s no reason to put the knobs in exactly the same place and use the exact same key assignments as Arturia.

      To be honest I don’t really mind that other cheap brands try what they can get away with on amazon and ebay. But I like my neutron and I’d rather not have to put gaffer tape over the Behringer logo out of shame.

    4. Arturia Keystep is of poor build quality as well. The first and last key is nonfuncional on mine just after a couple of months.

      2. Same to me… The last keys on the right (the last 2 or 3) also dont work. They are all cheap. I don’t know how good the Keystep pro keys are, but I wont try it. And Im not someone who uses them a lot. On the other hand the beatstep pro has all the buttons working. Maybe is the keybed that is of very bad quality. And I know more people that had the same problems with the keys on the extremes of the keyboard.
        Still this doesnt make copying it right (dont know if legal). I support making vintage gear but not gear that is new like this (I also had a bad taste with the Crade, the rest , I completely support)

    5. No they don’t maybe in the past like +10 years ago, but the build quality today is good.
      My worst experiences gear wise is things made in the US, trying to keep up with china prices and failing hard.

  5. hit the bottom, hit the bottom… that’s really pathetic!
    they are hiding now the like and dislike stats at the youtube launch video as the dislikes were far more, people are clearly showing what they think of this.

  6. This sort of thing is just plain wrong. Someone else had to lay out the R&D expense. Then you just knockoff the design, and change enough components to try and avoid a legal battle. This is blatant.

    Come on Uli! Have some standards. There is no excuse for this sort of thing. That is why I will not support them with my gear dollar. Even if they make a VCS3 knockoff for 300 bucks.

    There are too many decent, honest companies out there making affordable gear. Ones who never stoop to this sort of thing. This is indefensible.

    (Insert inevitable defense of the indefensible below)

    2. The big R&D expense is the software, and Behringer have to pay that themselves. It’s not like the electronics or mechanical design of the Keystep are anything special. Arturia and other gear manufacturers could try registering their designs, but that could be difficult (and expensive) to defend. Behringer aren’t trying to mislead customers that they’re buying a Keystep.

  8. I am glad all the reviewers with a good reputation like Nick Batt, Loopop and the rest are not taking their sh*tty gear for reviews anymore, they deserve it and keep proving it, hope people will see it too and stop buying this crap.

  9. Admin: Comment deleted (name calling, stating rumor as fact).

    Also, you or someone at your IP address is using multiple accounts (John Saunders, cyberheater) to post comments, which results in your comments getting flagged as spam. Using a consistent identify and posting constructive comments will avoid this.

  10. I will it a try, after a few update issues from Arturia on my midi step why not, haters will be haters, but it is mice to see a product out for fks who don’t have a lot of cash

  11. Uli does himself no favours at all does he?

    I mean, it would be so simple to come up with a MIDI controller which is interesting and different. Why not steal parts from TWO competitors and slap them together and make something interesting. Why not make one with 16 encoders? Why not make one with a waggly joystick or a D-Beam? Even the doubters would say “well , this is something interesting!” but they can’t even be that imaginative. They just clone exactly a product everyone already has, and do it 20% worse. Weird. just … weird. I have so many ideas for MIDI controlers, and none of them are the old version of a keystep.

    This makes no sense at all

    1. I think you’re spot on here. There are loads of ways to innovate and distinguish yourself, just look at what KORG is doing. Total lack of imagination from Behringer, coupled with poor ethics.

    2. Exactly; it’s just mind boggling. Behringer makes good gear, and products like the Neutron prove they can innovate. They could have easily made “a KeyStep for…” and it could have been anything. A KeyStep for people who want an X/Y pad, or for people who want something that fits in a laptop bag, or for people who want to trigger phrases on a grid…

      And out of all these, they went with “A KeyStep for people who don’t want to spend $30.” Unbelievable.

  12. I don’t really have a prblem with Behringer re-making classic synths that are no longer in production, but this is outrageous. Surely Artura are talking to their lawyers??

  13. If you can take a design and make it better or smaller or more innovative that’s the only way I would support a company like Behringer. The Neutron was a good example. I think in the community must take a stand and send a message. If you buy this specific piece of gear you will be relegated to the bin of shame. It’s a blatant copy of an original keyboard design. If you force companies to patent every single PCB and component original gear would be astronomically expensive. We don’t need that right now. Sure Behringer can’t copy everything but let’s be authentic on how we perceive this blatant hardware copy. It’s lazy and borderline criminal. Stop now Behringer. You are in danger of a revolt against your company name. Unless you can prove you bought the rights to use this design from Arturia your name is mud. Pathetic.

  15. These small, light controllers should have knobs on each end, to be able to attatch a shoulder strap, for stand-up use ie. ‘Keytar’.
    Rolands’ SH-101 did.

  16. I can understand the cloning of old synthesizers that are no longer made, but this is pure steeling. Now they have really gone too far. I will not buy any more stuff from Behringer.

  17. Hey Behringer, instead of copying Arturia’s Keystep, how about you use the same technology to create a USB PC interface with MIDI, CV/Gate, and triggers for all the DAWs out there? Something along the lines of 8 MIDI outs, 8 pairs of CV/Gate outs, and 12 trigger outs? That would be great, thanks!

    2. Check out Shuttle Control from Endorphins. Usb midi – cv interface. 16 assignable outputs. Completely configurable. You can save presets. It’s great.

  18. Hi,
    it is so……., that I can’t belive it is true. Only thought I’ve got, is that Arturia is discontinuing Keystep, and they just sold the rights to Behringer….

  19. Anyone buying or supporting Behringer or any products made by any Musictribe subsidiary in any way, shape or form is contributing to the death of innovation in music tech.

  21. I love how you all complain about Behringer doing knockoffs like it’s an unholy and unique sin, but then buy the heck out of equally knockoff products in every other area of your life and think that’s just fine. This IS how marketing works. Welcome to the last 7 decades, folks.

    I’m not saying you should like it, but wow, stop pretending it’s new.

  23. LoL. This is just embarrassing. I’m no instrument designer but even can think of a bunch of ideas for new and different MIDI controllers.
    I suppose I can see why they’d want to clone the Keystep. It is the most popular controller out there. Basically everyone who owns any kind of synth has a keystep because it’s so compact and perfect for just about any set up.

    I guess Behringer is attempting to jack some of that market. The problem is: This is just way too blatant a rip off. At $30 less you’d be dumb to go for the Behringer.

    This is just getting ridiculous now. LoL

  24. I’ve fallen for a few of B’s tricks, have a small pile of cheapo gear that looked fun. One common denominator: the digital bits. Neutron is fun but the DACs are noisy and the LFO code is glitchy. TD3: same. CMD midi controllers: noisy encoders. Given that reputation, device being a bunch of sensors driving a set of DACs could be pretty problematic.

  25. Look, its a $99 suppository with CV/Gate jacks! Cool. Do what suits you, certainly, but long before there was a Uli, I bought budget gear that cost me a lot more in frustration than its low price covered. Save a bit more, trim your general budget a little and then buy more upscale tools. If someone says their B is performing well, I’m okay with that. I just know from experience that generally, cheapo gear dies after 2 or 3 years of normal use. The added $100/500+ that you spend on something more solid will get you 10.

  26. Stephen Archbold asks if Arturia are talking to their lawyers.
    Is it possible Arturia gave permission to Behringer to use their design?

    1. “Is it possible Arturia gave permission to Behringer to use their design?”

      No, it is not possible that Arturia would give permission to another company to make a cheap knockoff that undercuts the price on one of their most popular products. That makes no sense.

      And it’s not conceivable that Behringer would pay to license a design. Their business model has always been built on stealing/copying designs. Several designers have stated on the record that Behringers recent synths ripped off their work.

      Why are people trying to do mental gymnastics to explain away the fact that this is a clear ripoff of the Keystep?

      Bapehringer has been sued multiple times for making illegal copies, so they try to change things in tiny ways – like ‘MonoPoly’ vs ‘Mono/Poly’, so that they’re less likely to get sued again.

      They make some cheap gear, but they’re pretty nasty about how they do it.

    2. Almost certainly not. If you look at the spacing of the transport controls on the Behringer version you can see that their device is spaced differently. That means they used a different plastic mold.

  28. I don’t mind the Behringer reissues of long-gone classic synths but this is ridiculous. Arturia should be mighty pissed off after they designed a unique controller for peeps with modular gear as well as hardware synths and software. There was absolutely no need for this – Behringer could easily design something that covers that same market but do it in a unique style and with some added functionality and improvements (if it had mod wheels instead of touch strips that’d be an excellent start, and some buttons/switches for hardware control of the various modes that Arturia only allows via software control)

  29. One has to wonder about the seriously weird Model D-style knobs and rocker switch. They don’t mesh with the Arturia industrial design at all. Did Behringer just decide to use a big tub of spare parts sitting in a back room at the factory?

    I find this sort of copying really ugly. It’s at the same level as the low end Chinese companies that produce dozens of variations of cheap USB hubs and flood Amazon with them.

    1. there’s really no need to wonder about anything, those knobs can be bought for 50p each from thonk (same applies to the switch), Arturia use custom molded knobs that they have manufactured specifically for their own gear/design asthetic, behringer cannot buy arturia knobs for 50p each

  32. Aaaaaaaand they’ve disabled the likes and dislikes on this video hahaha. (The only vid of theirs they have mind). Clearly they have received a TON of hate on this product.

  35. It’s frustrating to see garbage like this.

    Uli Behringer has all the resources he could need to give us something new and creative, or to do something innovative to push the industry forward.

    Instead, he chooses to make his entire organization do cheap knockoffs. Doesn’t he or anyone in the organization aspire to anything better?

  39. If you are keeping score at home, in addition to Behringer other brands under the Music Tribe banner are Midas, Klark Teknik, Lab Gruppen, Lake, Tannoy, Turbosound, TC Electronic, TC Helicon, Bugera, Coolaudio and Auratone.

    1. The direction TC has gone in since the Music Tribe buyout is sad. They’ve turned a classic company into just another clone factory. I know the same can be said for most of the names on that list but it’s really lame to see the TC name on Boss clones and the like.

  40. If you buy generic versions of name brand food products and complain about Behringer, you are a hypocrite. Do you complain about a version of the Oreo that is not made by Nabisco?

    1. No, I complain about people self-righteously demonstrating that they have no idea what they are talking about.

      Oreos are knockoffs of Hydrox cookies, not the other way around.

      Regarding calling people you don’t know ‘hypocrites’ for criticizing Behringer:

      You don’t know about the Behringer gear that many of us purchased, with hard-earned money, that turned out to be garbage.

      And you may not care that Behringer sued Dave Smith for hundreds of thousands of dollars, just to harass him.

      And you may not care that Behringer has for years use lawsuits and harassment to attack free speech.

      And you may not care that Behringer uses their Facebook and Youtube channels to promote hate speech and personal attacks.

      But many of us know these things and many of us do care. And you do not get to decide whether or not we hold Behringer accountable for them.

      1. Ummm. I’m obviously referring to just the “knock-off ” aspect of Behringer products. And yes, I’ll say it again, if you (meaning anyone) don’t buy brand name food items and instead buy the generic knock-off version and then complain about Behringer making knock-offs, you are a hypocrite.

        If you don’t like Behringer, then don’t buy Behringer products.

  41. Google reveals it is NOT some kinda April Fools Day in either Germany, Phillipines or China (banned) so,…
    just the stupidest dumbass move since CorkSniffer Gate on just any other day in Uli Land .

    Bad Ol’ Behringer is back , ripping off existing products . No defence here about expired patents , bringing
    unobtainable synths to the masses , just an inexplicable case of copycat ripoff of a cheap controller keyboard.
    All their PR about different design teams around the world & they have the nerve to bring out an exact clone of an existing product , instead of innovating or at least improving upon a competitors product .

    I thought it was smallscale counterfeiters who ripped of major corporations , seems the opposite with megacorps
    Behringer.
    They are working extra hard to discourage me from ever giving them another cent & I feel sorry for Midas , TC Electronic & other owned company employees who have to stomach this kind of shameless behavior from their parent company.

  42. I was going to buy a Behringer 2600 when it’s released, but after seeing this travesty, I’m boycotting Behringer.
    There are other many more reputable companies that I’ll buy from instead.

  43. Well at least synthtopia is putting “knockoff” in quotes now with an actual reference. 😉

    I suppose imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

  44. Add me to the growing list of people who think what Behringer is doing here is awful. I had not bought their products before. I definitely will not buy any thing from them now.

  45. For me personally, I’ve decided against buying Behringer products after the Dave Smith Instruments case when I took the time and compared the products and looked at the comments in question.

    Are these normal business practices? Sure, if you compare it to the likes of Nestle. I suppose most of their actions are legal, but that doesn’t mean we have to support them.

    1. Man it’s just the same exact layout and feature set. It’s not just a midi controller. It’s the same controller with another name and cheaper. It’s just stealing nothing more, and they should be sued for that.

        1. Imagine that you created a track, and some known dude took your track, did it exactly the same, but changed the hats and the lead. And got it out on internet without carring ?
          Do you think that’s a good way to create music ?
          This is just stealing intellectual property. It’s known that Behringer does that since the beginning, but here it’s too obvious.
          And aside that, what is the point to create a product that already exists and is available ? They are just once again being fools on the public area. But I guess they are successful doing that sort of crap anyway.

          1. they didn’t even changed the hats and the lead, they’ve changed the name on the track from harry to garry, that’s what they did here… and cheerleaders like harry who can’t see a problem here are part of the problem.

  48. I think it would be very embarrassing for any live act to incorporate Behringer gear.
    Most music comes from a better place than what Behringer represents.
    Music is a message Oreos are not.
    Image is not everything but it is something.

  49. I was about to purchase some Behringer synths and modules but after this I don’t want to have anything to do with Behringer. Resurrecting vintage synths is one thing, cloning current products is a totally different, disgusting practice. I wonder why there aren’t any laws for preventing this kind of theft.

      1. Since doing knockoffs has been Behringer’s business model since forever, I’m pretty sure they know what’s legal and what’s not.

        Would people be as up in arms if they’d changed the physical design a bit more?

        1. Not every legal decision is about win or lose in court. Some legal decisions are made because the repercussions of losing the court case do not offset the profits made by taking the infringing action.

  50. This has definitely gone too far. I was open to checking out some of their knock offs of old synths but to see them undercutting Arturia with their own product is unforgivable and Behringer is now past the point where I will never consider purchasing their products again.

  51. Perhaps it is too much of a direct copy, and they missed an opportunity to expand on the feature set if you ask me. But is it really any different than what other manufacturers have been doing for some time regarding MIDI controllers? You only have to search for ’61 key MIDI controller’ and they all look the same – 8 drum pads, 8 knobs and 9 sliders plus pitch bend and mod wheels. Layout of the M-Audio Oxygen and Nectar LX61 for example is virtually identical.

    I actually own a Beat Step pro – and feature wise, it’s excellent. But the build quality isn’t that great. For a start, the whole unit has developed a big bend in the middle and it gets dreadful feedback when connected to my mutable modules unless I use that silly power / data splitting dongle (which I’ve had to gaffer tape to hold it in place).

    In the interest of balance, I did also buy a Behringer X-touch mini and the responsiveness of those rotary encoders is shockingly bad – but I guess, you do get what you pay for.

    That said, I’ve been lucky with my older Behringer gear and my Modulizer rack is still going strong more than 20 years later. For comparison, I’ve just had to remove a load of corrosive black gunk and replace all the capacitors from my KRK RP5’s after less than 10 years service (not a nice job).

  52. well, this is how capitalism works: you got a cool product, wait some years and the copy cats will follow, so you have to innovate again to take the extra profit. I dont mind Behringer making music gear affordable. The price-quality-ratio is ok. You get what you pay for and it normally works for standard-applications. But Im curious what the DAW will look like.

  56. I was never interested in their half-baked crap. Was kinda curious if they can recreate a VCS 3 but after failing in very simple synths and all the d*ck moves they constantly make around there is no way I would ever support this joke of a company. Hope more people will do the same, even if they boycott mehringer for a month this would be enough.

  57. I will never buy a Behringer product because of their shameless and disgusting business practise, exemplified yet again by the release of this Arturia Keystep clone.

  58. Behringer stuff I own: all works and sounds better than my expectations.

    Arturia stuff I (used to) own: ALL OF IT BROKE. only exception is one of their software synths. Additionally, their customer service really is terrible and I’d be embarrassed to be associated with that company.

    1. Eric, with all respect, you may be right of wrong about quality, but it is not relevant in this context. The point here is that a company makes a 1-to-1 copy of another company’s best selling products. There is a huge ethical question behind it. salute

  59. The #2 thing that makes me want to slap Uli in the head- quite hard, but only once- is that if he was cranking out original instruments like the DeepMind & Neutron, the original line would at least feel like a cheaper honest alternative. I wonder if the lawsuits will eat the profits he’s making from newbies who are cutting their teeth on his vintage “emulations.”

  60. Unless the company is collectively owned and operated, (like Moog) fuck them all. I could give a shit if one greedy corporation steals an idea from another. And honestly, if it brings overall prices down, awesome. For too long now synthesizers have been for trust fund kids only, as they have been unaffordable to working class. At least behringer is making synths available to the working poor, even if it is because they own a factory city in China. Anyway, all other electronics work this way. Cell phones are a good example. Yeah, if I had a bunch of money I would be playing music with Moog equipment, but I don’t, so I use a neutron, crave, and if I could have bought a behringer version of the KSP and saved a bit of change, I probably would have. I’ll spend extra to support a co-op, but sometimes (like always) it’s simply not an option. I would rather have a mother 32 than a crave, but it was all I could do to swing the crave. I’m not trying to cheerlead for behringer, I’m sure they are a planet destroying psycho corporation just like the rest, but they did make it possible for me to have decent gear while living on unemployment. And I appreciate that, it’s the silver lining to this covid nightmare. So, in summary, you corporation’s are welcome to rob eachother blind, and if it brings process down, I’ll even encourage it. Just leave the co-ops and collectives alone if you can.

    1. I understand your feelings here. I worked two jobs all summer in 1997 to save for my first workstation, a KORG n364. I didn’t have money to pay for expensive synths.

      But what you’re not seeing is that the CRAVE, cheap as it is, would never exist if the boys and girls at MOOG hadn’t coughed up on the R&D to develop the Mother-32. Moreover, MOOG took the risk – the investment decision that perhaps their R&D mightn’t result in profit – and Behringer did not.

      In other words, from a purely economics perspective, the more Behringer do this shit, the less everyone wins in the long run. They are the definition of parasites. As much as I understand your position, I’d ask you to consider why there is such unanimous disgust towards this release. Because it is disgusting. Thank you.

    2. Behringer is probably owned by the People Of China and managed by the Communist Chinese Party. It’s as co-op and collective as it gets.

    3. I understand your feelings on this, but you should know that there is more great used gear available on the used market than ever before. For example a Yamaha TX81Z has a much wider pallette than a Crave, still sells for around $100, and with the minimum occasional repair should continue playing for another 35 years. And that’s not even considering the amazing options in software! No need to support companies like Behringer.

  61. I used to be proud to use resurrected synths I couldn’t afford.
    The background of a cannibal company has just been uncovered.

    Now I’d be embarrassed to go on stage with one of Behringer products.

    If you do not remove this “product” I will never use or buy anything yours again.

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