Developer Julien Delgoulet let us know that a new batch of PCBs & panels for the MME, a Euro-format clone of the Minimoog Model D rev 2.0. are now available.
The MME is a DIY project that lets you build a Minimoog clone in 60hp, the same as Moog’s Euro format synths:
The MME offers several additions to the Minimoog Rev 2 design:
- VCOs PW
- VCOs PWM
- VCO1->VCO2 Sync
- VCO1->VCO3 Sync
- CV input for each VCO (allow to use the MME as a praphonic synth with the right Midi/CV-Gate interface)
- VCF-Env output
- VCA-Env output
- Mod-Wheel input that allows to use a CV to control the VCO-3/Noise modulation level.
You can read more about the development of the MME in a thread at Modwiggler. A detailed build guide is also available.
Audio Demos:
Pricing and Availability
The MME is available as a DIY project, with options starting with a barebones PCB set for €55.
This is awesome. I wish it was possible to buy pre-built units.
https://vintageking.com/behringer-model-d…it is totally worth it
I agree. But the MME fits perfectly next to the Mother-32 / DFAM / Subharmonicon
There is a list of builders who will do this for you on Mod.
Can you post a link to this info? I can’t find it.
https://modwiggler.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=17&sid=9bd9feeba4bd69bfdea6ed3f5ebe19dc
How is this a clone and not a knock-off ?
The MME is not designed to be a cheap knockoff. How is this not obvious to you?
Comments like yours just make people think that Behringer fans are ignorant.
I have a Behringer D and it’s good for a cheap knockoff, but I didn’t drink the Kool Aid. The Behringer D front panel design is a bad, obvious ripoff of the Minimoog, the switches and pots are garbage and Behringer clearly chose cheap build over accurate throughout.
Appreciate it for what it is, a good cheap knockoff. Don’t pretend it’s something else.
As I said, I’ve got the Behringer D, but would love to get an MME to add to my 60hp Moog rack.
Comments like yours just make people think that Behringer bashers are ignorant.
I have the B. Odyssey. It’s by no means a “cheap knockoff”. It’s better than the Korg copies, and the originals, in every way. The build quality is excellent — it’s a tank. The onboard effects work. The arp/sequencer are welcome additions.
“…the switches and pots are garbage…”
I also have a Model D, and I have a Neutron. I have had them for years and use them often. Neither synth has given me any problems whatsoever. How are the switches and pots “garbage” when they work flawlessly nearly weekly for years on end?
As cheap as the Boog is, its built better and its more solid than any of the Roland Boutique or Korg Volcas.
You noticed too?
I just want the knobs.
I more surprised that you did not mention the knock-off company, which you like to mention everywhere (related or not).
I am fairly sure that you have seen the explanation why things on this site are called the way they are called. This is a clone, your favorite brand makes cheap knock-offs. Deal with it.
Lol! I am totally schooled. Not.
I root for the winners.
I did, but the almighty post master” didn’t post my comment…..i understand…I guess this is the only thing that he can controls in his life…so no biggie….glad to know that we all can see behind his soul…hope he can take all his rage, frustrations and sadness in life thru post against the unmentionable company here 🙂
Will you post this…this time?
“almighty post master” here….
The first comment from a noob commenter is automatically flagged for human review, which is why your comment was flagged for moderation. This is to keep spammers from taking over the comments, and Synthtopia’s comments are essentially spam free as a result.
“Noob moderation” is also is intended to help keep personal attacks and hate speech off the site.
If you want to make an intelligent comment comparing the MME to the Behringer D, or questioning the purpose of the MME when the Behringer D exists, you’re strongly encouraged to make a constructive comment instead of just trolling. While we encourage active discussion on the site, if you just troll or waste our moderators’ time, we’ll use the ban hammer when appropriate.
Thank you almighty for taking the time….in all honesty I was just making aware to the dude about a pre-assemble request that there is the Behringer thing…(since he sounded novice on the arts of the diy or even synths,,,,just speculation of mine)..never was my intention to troll my dear all mighty….you know that I have been following you for almost a decade now in all honesty man, and even not knowing you,,,,,indo love you for having this site…your and matrix synth are the ones that i check on daily basis
Never take something to personal brother….I know that you and i are old enough to rant from time I time without taking any offense man and giving us names….we don’t came form that time of the PC a raps…you can call me retarded and i will take it like when we wer kids or stupid or idiot or dumbass…..i think that almighty really suits you my brothers. I really appreciate the time you invest in us
Sincerely
Sid
PD In all honesty the behringer one is a good bang for the buck despite envy thing else…and we all know it
the butthurt is strong with this one
I know what you mean, but this one is a DIY kit, so could it really be a knock off?
Now, that is a distinction worth mentioning. Thank you mr midi.
It is a little different in terms of controls and features. There is PWN and sync on this but not on a Minimoog. It will be interesting to see if the circuits used are the same. I would guess it uses a different oscillator core and wave shaping etc. This takes it further away from a knock-off and more to an interpretation in my eyes.
I can guarantee you that the circuitry is exactly the same as the original 😉
Because Behringer tries to copy the look and color scheme of the minimoog, without working with that company. I think that’s the difference. If Korg does it, they usually work with the original developer, which makes it more of a “re-make”. And this DIY unit has more of a generic look. It’s not using the branding and color scheme of another company in such an obvious way.
All the Korg Volca do use the branding and color scheme of another company in such an obvious way and nobody ever complained. The Beats is based on the 808, the Bass on the 303, the FM on the DX7, the Samples on the MPC, and so on.
BTW I own a lot of them and I love them a lot.
No, none of those copy the branding and color scheme of another manufacturer. You really have to squint to believe that. They may have similarities, but they all look very different. Compare that to Behringer just copying the Pro-One, changing the name to “Pro-1,” copying the exact font type and styling and calling it a day. That’s what makes a knock off. I don’t really care that Behringer makes knock offs, but they are definitely knock offs.
I agree they did not do a 1:1 exact copy as Behringer did, but they did used the branding and colors in their design to heavily remind us of the devices they were taking inspiration from. Its not as blatant but its there.
The Minimoog really IS a classic. That’s why many people want one and why there’s so much BUTTHURT when anyone goes near the design. Almost every other synth’s signal flow starts there, so put some ointment on that butt and get over it. If a Minimoog was good enough for Jesus, its good enough for you, monkey boy! 😀
its through hole with full sized knobs, and 10hp less than the big B. surely that deserves an honorable mention?
anyway, pretty sure i purchased this pcb like a year ago and never got around to making it, so not sure how it’s new.
Posted by synthhead in the thread below “Behringer Teases PPG Wave Knockoff, Offering Free Synths To Youtube Reviewers” on 9 July 2021 at 11:07 am:
“We use the term ‘copy’ as a broad category, and terms like ‘clone’, ‘software emulation’, ‘reissue’, ‘inspired by’ and ‘knockoff’ as more specific sub-categories.
A ‘clone’ is a copy that is essentially IDENTICAL to the original. [Capitalization added]
A ‘knockoff’ is an inexpensive copy of another company’s product, and will generally have design changes that make it cheaper to manufacturer – cheaper materials, cheaper production techniques, design compromises, etc.”
The term ‘knockoff’ is appropriate for gear that’s designed to be a cheap, unofficial copy of well-known original.”
Posted by synthhead in the thread “Behringer UB-Xa “Will Blow You Away” (Sneak Preview)” on 28 December 2020 at 4:11 am:
“Clone” suggests that a copy is IDENTICAL to the original.” [Capitalization added]
Title of this article: “MME Eurorack Minimoog CLONE Kits Now Available”. [Capitalization added]
From the article: “The MME offers SEVERAL ADDITIONS to the Minimoog Rev 2 design”. [Capitalization added]
dingo865 – it seems that you’ve discovered that some things in the world are not as clear cut as you might like and have concluded that conspiracy must be the cause.
The MME is designed to be a clone – with the developer calling it a Euro-format clone of the Minimoog Model D rev 2.0. It isn’t designed to imitate the branding or trade dress of the Minimoog. There also don’t appear to be a lot of design changes made primarily to make it inexpensive to manufacturer. In fact, the design uses more traditional manufacturing approaches and part choices, making it closer to the original design, but also more expensive.
We categorize Behringer products as ‘clones’ where it’s appropriate, so you may want to consider why we’d categorize products like these as ‘clones’ vs ‘knockoffs’:
Behringer Clones Curtis CEM3396 ‘Analog Synth On A Chip’
https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2020/07/08/behringer-clones-curtis-cem3396-analog-synth-on-a-chip/
The intent is for the chip to function identically to the original.
Behringer Intros ‘Brains’ Eurorack Module, A Mutable Instruments Plaits Clone
https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2021/06/15/behringer-intros-brains-eurorack-module-a-mutable-instruments-plaits-clone/
It clones the hardware design and uses the same firmware as the original.
Behringer Intros Clone Of Moog 3-Tier Rack Kit
https://www.synthtopia.com/content/2020/01/23/behringer-intros-clone-of-moog-3-tier-rack-kit/
It looks and functions essentially identical to the original and doesn’t have obvious design compromises to make it cheap to manufacturer.
There are obviously tons of examples of us categorizing Behringer products as ‘knockoffs’, too, simply because their stated business strategy is to be a market follower, making inexpensive copies of popular products.