Teenage Engineering has introduced the OP-1 Field, a successor to the original OP-1 that they say is ‘injected with more than a decade of ideas, refinements and improvements.
The Teenage Engineering OP-1 Field features an updated design with 100 new features. OP-1 field has a new low profile frame with floating keyboard, new field color palette, a high resolution screen with flush glass cover, stereo throughout the whole signal chain, bluetooth midi, 24 hr battery life, multiple tapes, styles and recording formats, a new reverb and the ‘dimension’ synth engine.
Other updates include a new speaker system with a passive driver; an FM antenna now with receiving and transmitting; upgraded connectivity with usb-c, 4-pole audio jack for headset mic support, and line in and out sockets are more durable.
The OP–1 field is TE’s second addition to their field system. Together with the TX–6 portable mixer, it can be used as an ultra-portable sound recording and performance system, that’s battery powered, rechargeable via usb-c and with full interconnectivity with iOS, macOS and windows.
OP-1 Field Feature Highlights:
- lowered frame with new floating keyboard
- dual velcro back fasteners
- 32-bit audio
- FM antenna for receiving and transmitting
- MFi for iPhone USB MIDI and audio connectivity
- Eight tapes to record to
- New speaker with passive radiator
- Dimensions: 28.8 cm x 10.2 cm x 2.9 cm
OP-1 Field Video Overview:
Pricing and Availability
The Teenage Engineering OP-1 Field is available now for $1,999.
Not sure how dual velcro back fasteners is a highlight, since they are available from all good hardware stores for almost no money at all.
I love the idea of a floating keyboard though – wonder how they got anti-gravity fields working in such a small and inexpensive device.
Ah – apparently the floating keyboard is just your basic tethered helium balloon approach (not shown and it’s a paid extra)
Obviously overpriced (its TE) but a nice update, shame they didn’t incorporate the OP-Z step sequencer and keep it around 1200, I may even have been interested!
they definitely know their market…
suckers
Broke = Activist.
Rich = Enemy.
Can afford and want = Sucker
Cant afford and act like you dont want = Hater
Behringer knows its audience too.
Damn, you must have lived a terrible life to have that perception of the world. So sorry for you.
You sounds like an American morning television program host making a monologue about how they “feel sorry” about men.
It’s a complete all in one small studio! You can make complete songs with it. Seeing it that way you can hardly say the price is too high I think.
if you have a smartphone you already have a portable studio
But then you have to create a workflow by yourself. With AUM I guess? And you need a Keystep. And cables 🙂
“You can make complete songs with it”
You can’t be serious….
Clickbecause on Bandcamp used an OP-1 to create complete songs and a complete album (The Duck Album) that sounds pretty unbelievable. It was so impressive to me that the whole thing was made on just an OP-1, I looked into one and bought me an OP-1 in 2014.
There’s a sucker born every minute. A phone with a couple $5 apps could do the same.
Better than to be envy on others who can afford something i don’t and call them suckers to level the playground.
Better to justify wasting so much money on a mediocre product then admit you made a mistake
Yeah, the velco thing is a weird one. Ont he website it says “Stick it on your guitar” like really? Either way I am totaly drooling. I love my Op-1, the one gear I never considered getting rid of because it does so much and its the easiest and smallest plug and play midi controller. Then it added usb audio so its been may quick goto lately after I had kids. Just my op-1 a laptop and Bitwig. So im am severely drooling over this Mk2, just like the 404 Mk2. If it aint broke, dont fix it, just add to it.
You can buy equally small midi controllers for $50, if that’s your use case $1200 is ridiculous, and $2000 is insane.
You misread the comment. MIDI control is just one thing they like about it.
Nawh. $50 midi controller + a couple vsts >>>>> $2000 OP-1
And how do you play the VST’s using the $50 midi controller? On a free computer?
The OP mentioned an OP-1, laptop and Bitwig, do try to keep up
If you think it’s not worth it don’t buy it, but If you have this strong urge to complain about it your motive must be jealousy.
If you think it’s worth it go ahead and waste your money, but if have this strong urge to defend it your motive must be shame.
2k for shit u can do with VSTs and a shitty 300$ laptop
If this is true any hardware synth is pointless.
So this is made for hobbyist doctors and lawyers. Most actual musicians cant afford toys this expensive.
I’m in marketing for games. So Game Developers and folks in game development can afford this too. And people that save money, credit cards. Funny to think only Doctors and Lawyers can afford $2000. I know a lot of folks are hard up on money, I can afford this but I really want a yacht. I ain’t on Yacht club monthly’s website, in the forum telling them that only billionaires can afford that yacht. That most boat guys can only afford a pontoon boat.
Its a great device that has a lot of value which is why so many people own the OP-1. It doesn’t need to be a polysynth to cost this much, if you can get a lot of value out of a $599 product like the sp404 Mk2, then its valuable to you and worth the price. Get a hustle and hustle if you want it.
You’ve made similar comments before on this site. Music made by a “hobbyist doctor” is as valid as that made by “actual musicians.” The medical professionals I know work really, really hard. And some of them are damn food musicians. Please drop the elitist “actual musician” attitude.
Idk I think that’s a valid criticism, phrased flippantly. Most professional musicians, or people pursuing a career in music, would struggle to afford this gear. While people with well paying day jobs (probably more likely tech people than doctors) will be able to handle the high price. They’re all “real musicians”, but the divide is real. As someone else pointed out, a good guitar costs more than this. The difference is you can tour with a $300 guitar for as long as you need until you can afford a $3000 guitar – and they’re the same instrument.
You’re making the argument that, because most people can’t afford a Stradivarius, that Stradivariuses should not exist.
Jazz great Charlie Parker played a plastic saxophone, because he was a drug addict and that was all that he could afford. That doesn’t mean that everybody should play cheap plastic instruments. But, if that’s all you can afford, do something interesting with it!
$300 guitar is actually a bit worse than $3000 guitar while here it’s the reverse – a computer, controller, and software worth half the OP-1 will, in average, produce much more enjoyable music compared to an OP-1, no matter what the (non-dawless) audience.
A computer, controller, and software aren’t portable like this.
You’re judging the OP-1 based on your values and requirements, which are irrelevant to the people that actually buy these things.
they absolutely are portable. a laptop and cheap akai midi controller your good to go!
“aren’t portable like this”. Didn’t say “not portable”. I love my OP-1 and I have the decksaver for it so I can just use a hefty rubberband and boom… on the road with super small carry-on bag that only has room for overnight stuff and the OP-1. If I wanted to bring my laptop with a midi controller and mess around in a tight seat on the airplane, it would be too much for the laptop/controller combo. OP-1 is awesome but the price going up this high is out of my range, at the moment. I got mine on sale before the prices went up.
Priced any electric guitars lately? There are plenty of good cheap ones, but the mainline non-budget tier of Fenders and Gibsons start near $2k and go much higher. Ditto other brands like Ibanez, PRS, Schechter.
Yes, but the difference here is that the traditional “low-grade” or beginners’ guitars these days — like Squiers or Epi’s — has raised the bar considerably and are of comparable quality to what you would have gotten in a full-blown Fender or Gibson 20 years ago (especially early MiM’s or 80’s/90’s USA models). So you can spend $300 and actually walk away with a really good guitar.
In fact, I know of plenty of pro players who grab those entry-level guitars as a base platform if they’re already planning on customizing. After all, if you’re already planning on swapping out the pickups, bridge, & tuners; doing a detailed setup; then modifying the electronics, why are you going to spend a couple of grand on an actual non-budget tier Fender Tele, Strat, or Jazz Bass when the body, neck, and fretboard are of a perfectly acceptable quality from a $3-500 Squier. Also seen this from a lot of gigging and session players, who don’t want to put a $5,000 axe at risk in a dodgy bar and find the current entry-level guitars extremely playable with only a minimum of setup.
The point, again, being that… yeah there are high-end pieces of gear that you may believe are of value to you at that high price. That’s great; you do you. But there are similarly there’s lots and lots (and lots!!) of gear at cheaper tiers that can do the same things as this and for far less cash.
William Carlos Williams, one of the great modernist poets, delivered over 3,000 babies at Passaic General Hospital…
lol since when has not being able to afford expensive gear stopped musicians from using gear they *could* afford and making hit songs with them? but sure, you and others can continue to post the same cliched complaints.
Just ordered one. To be honest, it will probably sit on the shelf, mostly unused, next to the dozen other unnecessary and expensive instruments I own, since at this stage in my life, raising kids and running a successful business are my top priorities, but it will be worth owning, just to induce rage in folks like you. 🙂
I feel it’s a common misconception that all music gear is made for “actual musicians”, as in professionals. Most instruments are being made for and sold to hobbyists, and that is totally fine. Most bikes are not made for olympic cyclists, and most running shoes are not made for pro athletes. The market needs hobbyists, otherwise companies could hardly make the money to keep innovating.
Most actual musician’s do whatever they can to make the music they love and obtain whatever instrument it takes to do so. When I decided to become a drummer I worked and saved until I got my kit and began making music. When I started to make money, more equipment, when I started recording and touring manufacturers gave me gear.I can say I have seldom heard a professional musician complain about price. It takes a lot of work to become a professional musician and if your successful you can make a lot of money.
“So this is made for hobbyist doctors and lawyers. Most actual musicians cant afford toys this expensive.”
It sounds like you don’t know shit about music history.
Charles Ives, who’s now recognized as one of America’s important classical music composers, was an insurance agent, because that’s how he could support his family.
Actual musicians (I assume you mean professionals?) usually spend quite a lot of money on their instruments, since that is their source of income. And for pros it is usually tax deductible as well. So as long as it would fit in their workflow somehow (and that differs a lot between individuals) I don’t see why an ‘actual musician’ would not be interested in this.
Ha ha, there are some VERY SERIOUS responses. I can’t believe I have to state this, but my comment is obviously a gross exaggeration, not meant to be taken literally. TE are a design company who happen to make musical gadgets and can obviously make whatever they want. I have an OP-Z and mostly like it. I have also had an OP-1, paid 599 euros for it as a b-stock return from a previous customer, I decided it’s too expensive for that price and returned it after a few weeks. The new OP-1 is way too expensive for the vast majority of people who make music, whatever way you look at it, you can tell from the very negative responses from literally any forum on the internet.
And, if you want a comment that was originally meant to be taken literally, here is a picture of the post made by Teenage Engineering themselves, saying, “No one should pay this price for an OP-1”, referring to 1299 dollars on ebay…
https://www.reddit.com/r/OP1users/comments/aqnviz/no_one_should_pay_this_price_for_an_op1_new_1299/
is everyone forgetting that Bon Iver drafted most of his 22 a million album on the OP-1? Actual musicians use this gear! People love the op work flow, and I have no doubt professional musicians will pay 2k for this, or more likely, will get free devices and post on their instagram with it, encouraging others to buy it.
Guiltttyyyyyyyyyy
Good news for those who want the original OP-1 as they may fall in price again…..
Don’t forget to buy the white leather wrap too, at only €249….?
What’s with the jesus cross on the right?
TE the equivalent to Apple in the Music Industry
No! TE are far worse and more expensive! But seriously the new OP1 is a really cool product which for some persons undoubtedly is worth 2K.
You have to pray your spouse doesn’t find out how much you paid for it.
LOL
It’s an output meter and the horizontal line shows unity gain
Have to say TE are becoming a brand I actively dislike with every new product
Boo hoo
It is really just a better OP-1 and not a OP-2 indeed.
I was not a fan of the OP-1 and that has not changed with this update. I really mist more depth to the synth parameters and just the option to use normal sequencing that could be saved. I get that is not the intention of the op-1 at al. It is a device made to make music creation less complex and focust on song creation more than sound design. Also force you to use different kinds of sequencing to spark creativity and live more in the moment like with modular synthesis, make/record done with it never change again kind of production style.
OP-1 hardware is appealing to me, beautiful design very nice interface.
The M8 was also not my thing because of the tracker so i still keep an eye out for a portable glovebox that is that wannahave that fits my workflow.
When is Behringer going to drop their $400 OP-1 clone? I’ll buy one.
omg, that would be so epic. shitty knobs and cheap build and all. would 100% buy
That’s actually an interesting take. Teenage Engineering is making something that Behringer can’t replicate, because TE’s product is ultimately their brand
You can say that about most products Behringer have ripped off! They can copy almost everything but not the original brand!
It’s made out of a secret alloy of cowpoop so it’s environmental friendly if it lands on a dumpyard once.
Yeah we get it. It ain’t cheap. It’s a luxury item at a luxury price. Get over it.
Not for you? Don’t buy it. Pretty easy solution. But I really don’t get where people need to get angry at a “thing” for existing. What that tells me is that you might actually like to own it but you’re mad at the price, not the product.
As for the price, yeah, it’s high but try to overlay that full feature set to anything else in the market, you will not find a true comparable. They can set the price where they want because of that. If it’s truly too expensive then the market will bear that out and they’ll have to modify the price accordingly.
As for the “hipster” this and “not real musicians” that, take that elitist nonsense on somewhere. Music is for everyone and people can do it in any manner they see fit. So tired of the “it’s a toy” crowd interjecting their negativity into ever product they deem inferior. Guess what. All this stuff is a toy. Any synth is something fun that you play with… a toy. Crayons could be called toys too but a person could still craft a masterpiece with it so go on with that tired old gatekeeping.
I’m sorry, but tired old gatekeeping is not an accusation Im going to take from someone defending a company selling an extremely limited and pretentiously designed accessory for 2000 euros and a flimsy 6 channel minijack mixer for 1300. Who is doing the gatekeeping? Anonymous commenters on the web, or a company fleecing its customers? Sure, go buy it and have fun with it, if that’s what you want to do. But don’t expect me not to giggle in the backgroudn while you’re doing it.
Would I want an OP-1 field? No, not really. It’s not an appealing instrument to me, and I can’t take it seriously as an instrument full stop. I can have that opinion and express it. If you feel threatened by that or feel like your being ridiculed, ignore it, you’re free to have your own opinion. I’m not going to sugarcoat the words I have to say about this pretentious elitist rip-off company, just so I don’t hurt the feelings of some sensitive soul desperately trying to rationalise it. I think it’s an overpriced piece of crap, deal with it.
I didn’t make any accusations at YOU or anyone else specifically but if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that sucker up and wear it as you jog on.
The only real reason to comment “it’s an overpriced piece of crap” or other “not worth it” comments is so it will be your decision not buying it and not something you can’t buy. I’m not surprised you are talking about “being threatened”, this is evidently how you feel about this product, if not why not just ignore it/don’t buy it? You want others to agree it’s not worth it because the price challenge you.
You clearly have interest in it, if you didn’t you would just skip along.
$2000 for this piece of plastic? Get a laptop and some powerful software,
it’s aluminum.
It’s an alloy made out of cow p00 p and so environmentalfriendly when it lands on the dumpyard
Sorry but if it doesn’t cost $5k+ I’m not interested.
Thank goodness it is reasonably priced, you can buy it and their new mixer for the price of a used car. I long for the days of $60 dollar pocket operators. At least I don’t have to feel bad about owning an OP-1 now, if the Field version was the same price I’d be really upset and feel the need to upgrade.
product design best in industry, sry guyz
I honestly can’t think of why would someone prefer to buy this very expensive music toy instead of an iPad Air with a good amount of music apps by around half the money.
It seems that it is aimed at a very peculiar market where “proud of ownership” is more relevant than anything else.
But I suppose that those willing already have an iPad (the Pro one)…
Because this someone likes it for whatever reason.
I’m in the iPad camp, but I can see why people might like the OP-1.
As great as iPad apps are, I expect some people still like hardware groove boxes and other portable music gadgets with actual physical controls (without the complexity of hooking up outboard gear to an iPad and configuring it for the app you’re using.)
It’s the difference between iElectribe and a hardware Electribe.
The OP-1 also has its own particular built-in (and somewhat opinionated) workflow that some musicians might like (and others might not of course.)
And unlike an iPad or a laptop, it doesn’t run distracting apps like web browsers, youtube, or twitter, and it lacks the temptation of an app store with tons of great music apps to check out and distract yourself with.
Also Apple often breaks music apps with its yearly iOS/iPadOS and macOS updates, while the OP-1 is unlikely to be broken by firmware updates. iOS users are in a bind because Apple heavily pushes iOS updates and older iOS versions may not have the latest security patches and bug fixes.
Look forward to seeing and hearing some reviews on this synth – seems expensive yeah.
Little mixer reminds me of Mission Impossible, 60’s Nagra style – seems expensive again
It’s too early to call them over priced though without understanding the functionality and hearing sounds.
If you want a better field recorder look at the Aaton CantarX3 ?
I just wrote them a letter:
Hej,
Now that the OP-1 Field is released today I have a question: Is there going to be an update on the old OP-1 soon? Because I was wondering, probably some of the new features, like effects or so, are maybe backwards compatible with the old device. Hope to hear from you.
With kind regards,
Was interested as an original OP-1 owner.
You’d think for that amount of money it’d have some really solid environmental/ethical labour credentials to boast about. It’s all good and well to pay a high price if the device has a low impact and the factory workers get good conditions and pay, and comes with a long warranty (eg. Fairphone) Their website and wiki page don’t mention anything like that though.
The 45 day delay on dispatch due to warehousing issues smacks of being stuck in China. That’s just a guess.
All TE products are made in Sweden, without exception. They actually actively employee best practices in utilising some of the most environmentally practices within their manufacturing. And furthermore, whilst they source some of their components via China, Taiwan, and other Asian countries, they attempt to use EU suppliers when possible.
https://performermag.com/best-instruments/best-music-keyboards-synth/manufacturer-profile-teenage-engineering/
Whilst I am not a user of their products, to those whom casually call any instrument a “toy”, that is more a function of the operator than the instrument. And though some instruments are considered “professional” tools, we’ve all heard users that make them less than so.
Just heard Tobias tell Gaz on Sonistate these things are built at some anonymous factory in Malaysia (probably costing about a tenner per unit to make). But yeah “swedish craftsmanship” and all that.
They themselves reference their factory in Malaysia… so not made in Sweden
https://teenage.engineering/now
Very akin to Apple’s “Designed in California”
You’re incorrect. You’re refering to a 11 year old article. This article shows their factory in Malaysia so their chain is not as EU based as you may think; https://teenage.engineering/now#behind-the-scenes-tx-6
I wish that were as good as that sounds.. Maybe something changed since that article from a decade ago. The TX-6 mixer they announced recently is clearly labeled as “Made in Malaysia” (check near the QR code -> https://teenage.engineering/_img/623a2ea578b3260004e06d6c_2048.png).
I wish this thing wasn’t 2k, but I also wish it wasn’t a tempting device. It’s both to me and unfortunately there’s probably no chance of me getting it.
“All TE products are made in Sweden, without exception”
That may have been true back in 2012 when that article was published but watching their presentation at Superbooth 2022 when they talk about ‘fantastic factories in Malaysia’, one can only draw an entirely different conclusion.
I stand corrected. I had that article saved from years ago and was unaware of the changes.
[Syntakt](https://www.elektron.se/products/syntakt/)
1 – All TE gear is made of mobile phone components, very small and very expensive
2 – It’s swedish, it’s a country where life is incredibly expensive too
3 – have a nice day, and buy what you can afford, there’s gear for all pouches 😉
1. Mobile phone components are generally cheap…
2. Life in Sweden is not incredibly expensive it is on par with most other EU countries…
3. There are plenty of really expensive cars outside of TE’s HQ though…
4. I actually think this was a really good update. But they should have done this five years ago…
5. An Apple iPad with a small controller slays thee OP1 for a third of OP1s price..
6. The mixer is ridiculously expensive…
“5. An Apple iPad with a small controller slays thee OP1 for a third of OP1s price..”
What controller do you recommend that would be equivalent to the OP-1’s hardware controls?
(Serious question – I like the iPad a lot as well as its terrific selection of music apps like Korg Gadget, etc..)
There are plenty of good small cheap controllers for iPads for example https://nektartech.com/impact-lx-mini/
IK multimedia Novation and Korg also have plenty of good good ones. Korgs Nanokey Studio is very versatile and supercompact.
That just a lie, surface mount component’s at even small scale around 5-20 units is far more cost efficient. I believe the original uses a “Blackfin Ultra Low Cost, 800 MMACs DSP” processor, this isn’t the same kind of silicon mobile phones use, it’s designed specifically for audio application, but the key word here is ultra low cost. It’s a common misunderstanding that has driven up the upfront cost of designing and assembling these circuits in the west. There is also a boomer myth that surface mount sucks for audio fidelity purposes, which you don’t to seem plagued by, but also plays into the misconception that lead you to believe that small = expensive. Expense is an objective fact, and you are objectively wrong about this fact. I’ll leave it for others to debate the tiny nuance in fidelity or the variations and flaws that make through hole components desirable. The same boomers might also make the argument that surface mount is not repair friendly, but this would be a world view that looks at a device like this as disposable, thus the “toy” word being used, and the price tag being viewed as exuberant for something viewed as disposable. If you’re genuinely interested in this a good place to start would be listening to what JHS pedals has to say about using surface mount components.
These are good points. Surface mount can be high quality, high reliability, and low noise as well as very compact and inexpensive. But I wouldn’t be surprised if the OP-1 shares components with some phones or other personal electronics. Custom components can create supply chain issues and tend to drive up the price unless you have adequate (usually large) scale.
And I wouldn’t use the boomer term as an insult. I’m sure both classic synths and the OP-1 have fans from boomers to gen z and beyond.
“Baby boomer” is used as a proper name for a generation, not an insult. Not everything is a meme bruh.
2K? LOL
My pocket operator cost 40 quid!
Would be nice to know the new specs, increased polyphony? external MIDI? Piano-roll sequencer?
Velcro stickers on the back! Slightly updated sound engine. Loads more marketing and design bulloney, and an add-on optional mixer purchase for another 1299 euros. If you pay them an extra 3.000 I’m sure they’ll come and point and laugh at you in person for buying it if you want to go the whole hog.
They will discontinue the original op-1. This will be the only option and they will slowly raise the price like they have on the original op-1. Buy an original op-1 right now before the prices go up or wait a year and pay 2,300 for this
Or just buy something better. Loads of options available. At that price, you could have 3 MPC one’s, a Moog Matriarch, a Pro3, the entire collection of Behringer clones, an Octatrack and a Digitone, an OB-6, a 3 week holiday in Japan, a decent secondhand stationwagon, the options are pretty endless if you’ve got 2000 in your pocket that you’re not wasting on this thing.
The OP1 is a beast (oh god that compressor!). I have one from the first batch, and yes it’s a portable studio, very fun, and with a unique sound.
One of the bad things were those mono tape tracks, the single tape. If I wanted one more track I had to record to tape and the mix was flattened to mono.
So this new OP1-field seems to solve those issues.
I’m still disappointed with the price tag : they are targeting the Apple-kind of market. OK I’m sure it’s a beast.
I bought my OP1 at 800€, and the same was later sold at 1300 (!!).
This one is sold at 2K, but frankly I can’t afford to upgrade.
SD card slot on this for saving tapes / projects, backing up sounds etc. an SD card slot for internal recording for their little TX-6 field mixer would have made these true field equipment, but as it stand you STILL have to have a computer to record into and save off your 8 tapes to free up more space for more projects. SO your OP-1 is tethered to your TX-6 field mixer which is tethered to your computer. they are so close but so far from being what they should be. but aesthetically they are drool worthy, school of Dieter Rams at its finest.
Hey, at least at that price they won’t run into supply issues!
would be nice if these things snapped together. to make one unit. unless they do ??
I think behringer introduced the. ” P On your grandma v1″
When I need to offload tracks from my OP-1 I connect it to my Sony WMD-6C, no computer needed, ever. However I also have a raspberry pi that can backup all the contents of the OP-1 when I’m on the go. While it is a computer it’s also tiny and cheap. However I’m not crazy about this new OP-1. The limits were part of what makes the original such a useful but of gear. And while I’m not a “real musician” I’m also far from rich. I found my OP-1 many years ago for a fairly reasonable price. It’s such and amazing slab of solid aluminum that if anything ever happened to it I’d sell as much of my other gear as necessary to replace it.
where can i buy a replacement battery for my OP-Z? 😉
2K ? Seriously ? Let’s wait for the Adult Engineering version…
“It’s a complete all in one small studio! You can make complete songs with it. Seeing it that way you can hardly say the price is too high I think.”
You can have a brand new iPad mini with 6 core, A-15 processor and 256GB storage for $650. Cubasis, and 10 decent synth apps for $150 (more or less YMMV). A complete all-in-one small studio for way under $1,000. At $2,000 you could have a MacBook Air and a good DAW. Also an all-in-one studio.
You can’t even check your email on an Op-1 either. Seeing it that way the price the price is too high.
You’re right, but it’s also true that your iPad Mini or laptop will be completely worthless in 10 years, and you’ll want to upgrade it after 3 or 4 years, and you will have paid $1000 on software and software updates over that timeframe.
Hardware like the OP-1 will generally work as good as ever in 10 years. ]And, based on the OP-1’s track record, will be a good financial investment.
there is no reason to buy the original OP-1 outside of collecting, and it’s not that desirable because it’s just an old version of OP-1 Field. If they updated it to add unique value in owning both field and the original, a nod their most loyal customers, and a nice stabilizer for the resale value, your statement might ring true, but anyone in that position, money aside, would prefer two OP-1 fields, and this is just as cumbersome as an OP-1 field + any other sync-able gear.
I believe an iPad if cared for and maybe a battery replaced will still work in ten years time, maybe not with all new software and updates but with all thats installed earlier. Which to be candid is today and in 10 years time still far more capable than a op1 field ever will be.
An asking price that brings to me the word “fleece”.
Love my OP-1, but let’s be real: It’s not an instrument you will actually use to get paid jobs done. It’s an inspiring and fun toy to play around, unwind and occasionally spawn a cool idea. Everything on this machine is voluntarily both more limited and complicated than your average DAW. And while the new version adds a lot of desired features, it doesn’t make it a „professional“ instrument, it makes it an even better toy. For a hobbyist or enthusiast that might very well be worth the asking price, but for a working musician, probably not so much.
Somehow FUN gets lost in the critiques of pricing, clones, no screens, and whatever other nonsense someone makes up when a new instrument is announced. If you’re using it and its fun, whether it be an ipad, a runnerband and a microphone or an OP-1, thats should be the priority for anyone who considers themselves a music producer. Otherwise your just around to rain on everyones parade.
All the TE fanboys will drop 2 grand on this w/out thinking twice. Then it will “sell out”. And then, after waiting a month or 2, TE will bring it back and then charge 3000 for it. Fanboys snap up those too…
Whiners will complain about it being overpriced and a terrible investment, and then complain when its value skyrockets on the used market.
“… your iPad Mini or laptop will be completely worthless in 10 years, and you’ll want to upgrade it after 3 or 4 years, and you will have paid $1000 on software and software updates over that timeframe.”
2011 iPad 2 is still going strong. 2014 MacBook same. True that I am putting more RAM, new battery, and an SSD in the MacBook. But that’s just to keep the software running way in to the future. I am not one to jump on every update that comes along. Especially the ones that cost money and don’t add very many new features. So, it is not true that my devices are completely worthless.
If you have $2,000, and an OP-1 floats your boat, good on you. I remember signing up for announcements when they first floated a teaser on the first OP-1. When they finally sent the email about price I was shocked at $800.
Converting 2012 $800US to 2022 buying power comes to $1,007.37. That new sound engine must be something!
They, along with erica synths and elektron. Really do take the piss, out of the suckers and mugs of this world.
Thanks for making everyone else’s day better with your pleasant comment.
It feels so bad being poor you need to call others sucker to feel better?
Actual musicians, that work every day making music and make a living, can afford the OP-1.
Also: if the OP-1 was the size of a full keyboard, everybody would be happy spending the money.
Not entirely accurate. A working musician in my country will never be able to afford this. IMO, this thing is worth 500-800usd, the mixer, 150-200usd.
working musicians have other costs to consider before getting expensive gear. A prosumer synth toy is going to be at the bottom of the priority list if at all. will probably be a YouTuber sensation though
2k eur is actually quite cheap to be honest. Think assets.
AudioPilz made a great review about it recently on YouTube. A dumb device for people that try too hard. At least this isnt assemble yourself like the other TE junk.
An incredibly narrow minded review you mean.
Good review like always, I think “elwyn” didn’t watched it, maybe just read the comments 🙂
for the same price I will buy a designed motorcycle like the Honda mini-moto (1,807$)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3RQzl1YkYo
As a supporter of the OG I would add this.
1. I don’t think the original is the best sounding device in the world, but for me it has the best “workflow”
2. Without a solid workflow devices sit unused no matter how cool or feature laden
3. iPads don’t have the hardware interface and knobs to turn. Yes, iPads can do more and sound better but they are all touch screen and nothing more without adding external controllers
4. Computers can do more for way less. Yep. But boot time, apps loading, etc all take away from user experience.
Now, I am an original TE fanboy, this is true, but I’m also a musician who picks up my OP-1 to capture ideas with it’s simplistic but effective set of tools. I export that to a computer like most of the TE users. Recognizing the device and especially the price is not for everyone I can say the workflow makes the price worth it for some of us. The device feels natural to me. I’m a non-trained musician who has never connected to an instrument more closely. Loved my Elektron but hated the workflow. Sold them. Love my ever shifting synth collection, but if the workflow is bad, out goes the synth.
As for updated to the OP-1 at this point forward I am not confident we will see them. A 10 year support cycle for a product OS is something you just don’t find in most other companies, and what the OP-1 is today is so much more than what was promised when I bought my beta unit and even more than when I got my second unit years later. I hope that same growth and development happens with this new hardware.
PS. I am not a fan of the velcro, the color change and other small things. Can’t have everything in one device no matter who you are. Happy creating, iPad, OP-1, or otherwise, hobbyist, touring pro musician or otherwise.
This is EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED1!!
I’m just starting out. Should I get this or the Akai Timbre Wolf?
This -> https://is.gd/Xfjdui
Start with something simple like the Waldorf Kyra.
Yes, already have ordered one. Pro musician with 50+ music experience. So what? You’ll spend your $2k this year for hamburgers and coke which will end in the city sur system. I’ll still make music after that, how about that?
Why blame TE, when its Putin prices?
That is BS! They make this in Malaysia with cheap components…Some of those cheap components may have gone up in price. But not so much as OP1 have gone up in price..
So its you the entity that knows the prices and reasons for everything without given any facts.
Did you know you can just not buy something and move on? No need to insult those that like it or talk about how you laugh at them behind their back. Half the complainers are just broke and have to talk like this to convince themselves they don’t need it. The other half are just A-Holes. I might get one. Not a first day buyer but I liked the original for sure. It would be great if they added all the OP-Z features.
The fact that someone w/ half a pea brain could potentially have to financially weigh getting this thing vs say an M1 MacBook ($1,300 for the 13″) + DAW ($200 Logic Pro) + midi-controller & audio interface ($500 left is plenty) is absolutely insane! I don’t care what this thing does or how it sounds, it’s absolutely & obviously not for me. Why do I care and comment?…to make this ^ point I guess.
You need to make this point because you are challenged by it’s price and your way to deal with it is saying whoever buy it is stupid.
A silly overpriced pretentious toy for programmers who want to pretend to be musicians. All that money spent gives you access to sequencers and “generative devices” etc which write all the soulless music for you and being that it’s a machine, you can tell everyone you came up with it all on your own.
I just ordered 10 of these things!
Great for influencers connected to Teenage Engineering that are afforded an accommodation unit but way overpriced for what it is for the general user. Be interesting to get a read on how an individual felt psychologically every-time they recorded some birds and percussive kitchen items with this unit knowing they shelled out 2K for it, lol. Not hating the product. Just can’t fathom the ridiculous “sucker every minute” pricing.